Am I losing video quality, and if so how to prevent it??

Apollo89x wrote on 6/24/2018, 9:29 PM

Hello my setup is as follows-

 

The cameraman shoots the videos, I get the files (approx 25,000 bitrate & 50fps / 1920 x 1080 resolution),

10-12mins clips split into 5-6 parts, so needing editing & transition animations.

 

I take those 6 bits, upload them onto Windows Movie Maker (as I find the layout for doing animations far far easier and more simple the Magix),

giving me then my complete clip.

 

I save that clip as the HD mp4 via WMM, but the file is then down to 4,000 bitrate/29fps.

 

I then upload that completed video onto Magix to adjust the brightness & contrast.

 

I then save the file again, but its now an 18,000 bitrate / 29fps file.

 

However I then need to again upload that file back onto WMM to add a intro slide (which cannot be added before brightness gets done, or else if messes mg logo colour up badly on that intro slide image).

 

I then save the file again, but its now back down to 4,000bitrate/29fps,

even though original was actually 25,000/50fps.

 

 

But so will my end file actually be noticeably lower quality image wise than original footage?

 

And if so, how can I retain those original specs please?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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Reason: Duplicate related post already answered

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wongck wrote on 6/24/2018, 10:29 PM

I was just wondering, when you save from MEP, was it an Export ?

You should be able to select manually the bitrate to use for the Export, among other settings, before you export it.

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johnebaker wrote on 6/25/2018, 3:59 AM

@Apollo89x

This question has already been answered in your post here - item 1.

You are losing quality and no you cannot keep the same quality in the 4000 kps video from a source of 25000 kbps

I will close this post - please continue in your original topic.

John EB

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RogerGunkel wrote on 6/25/2018, 4:20 AM

@Apollo89x This appears to be the same problem as in your other thread, but the information you have given seems to have changed. The problems that you are encountering seem to be coming from WMM which is a basic programme and not really suitable for serious editing. The sort of basic editing that you do in WMM is equally as easy in Magix, you just need to spend a few minutes looking at some of the excellent tutorials and reading the manual. You will then be able to import the original camera footage straight into Magix, add your basic transitions/animations, match the light levels and export at the original frame and bitrate.

You really ought to have a word with your cameraman, as your original footage shouldn't need constant lighting level changes if it is filmed correctly, but without knowing the circumstances it was taken under it is difficult to offer advice. The main quality problem seems to be coming from the fact that you are converting 25,000kbs at 50fps down to 4000 kbs at 29fps in WMM. The footage originally is being filmed in European PAL format and you are converting it in WMM to a low quality American NTSC format, which is odd to say the least. This is before you even put it into Magix. If you carry out all your editing in Magix on the original footage, you can then choose to export the finished edit at the original quality or at a lower level if you choose. This is all assuming that your computer spec is up to the requirements, which is difficult to tell without more information about the processor, ram etc and of course the version of Magix you are using.

 

Roger