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David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/7/2023, 12:23 PM

Hello Patrick I have had some issues with camera zoom some I have found a work around. Can you tell me your year/version of Photostory and can you explain in a little more detail how exactly the zoom is not working as you would like?

patrick-drouet wrote on 12/7/2023, 7:19 PM

Hello David, this is the 2022 version, thank you.

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/8/2023, 2:15 PM

For me the PS 2022 version of camera zoom works well. Can you expalin to me your exact problem or even send a link to a screen shot video of your issue and I will try to assist if I can. I'm not an expert but have had issues that I have sorted out for my self. If you can use the Snipping tool in video mode and if required make sure your microphone is on so you can commect on the problem.

 

 

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/8/2023, 2:16 PM

I presume your using a Windows PC if so what version of windows is it please

patrick-drouet wrote on 12/8/2023, 10:08 PM

Hello, I am use Windows 11 , but the problem is the same with previous versions of windows.

 

Here are 3 pictures:
IMG7820 has no effect and is filling part of the screen, you can see the two horizontal bars
IMG 7821 is using zoom, the image become higher with the zoom function, you can see the black bars on bottom and top disappeared,
IMG 7822 is a section effect, the problem is similar to the zoom effect.

So when I run the video the image size change depending if I use or not effect. I have no idea how to keep the size constant.

Thanks if you can help.

browj2 wrote on 12/8/2023, 10:38 PM

@patrick-drouet

Hi,

Camera/zoom shot is made expressly for creating a zoom in or out over time. Keyframes are created automatically. That is what you did. If that is not what you want, do not use that effect.

If you want a simple static zoom, then use Size/Position/Rotation. I did several tutorials on this for Movie Studio, same thing.

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patrick-drouet wrote on 12/8/2023, 11:26 PM

John, this is what I want but this is not what the software is doing. The image during the zoom is changing size and not more consistent with the image size without effect. The software is not usable this way as it keep changing size when you run the video.

browj2 wrote on 12/9/2023, 12:19 AM

@patrick-drouet

That is because there are keyframes where you changed the size. Changing size and zooming are basically the same thing.

Watch my tutorials.

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patrick-drouet wrote on 12/9/2023, 1:19 AM

Ok, which tuto are you referring to? Thank you

patrick-drouet wrote on 12/9/2023, 1:50 AM

I found it, yes it is clearly explain the functions but still my image change it's size when the effect run. I just want to know the settings I should use to have a fixed size at 3:2 or 16:9.

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/9/2023, 4:35 AM

Hi Patrick. I think I understand your problem, I had that issue when I first used Photostory. If I am correct in understanding your problem there may be several reasons you are having the issue. If you want the final project to be wide screen then go to File-Settings-Project put a tick in the 16.9 ratio. Then if the original image is not 16.9 in the fx settings look for and click on section in the drop down menu instead of keep proportios select 16.9 ratio. Now you can select zoom and the type of zoom you require. I have put together a short video I hope this helps you. https://www.flickr.com/gp/poppops/M02dwA4o67

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patrick-drouet wrote on 12/9/2023, 8:03 PM

Hi David, thanks for the explanations, unfortunately it is still not fixed. I created two videos the first one is the original one where I did not tick the 16:9 boxe. I import my pics directly from camera and their format is 3:2. As you can see the first images have the same size when I run the movie but when I start zooming on the woman it goes to full screen until the effect stop. On the last pic I use the section function and here too it changes the size on the image.

For the second video, in 16:9 we have similar negative impact but this time it expand horizontally instead of vertically and in both cases the video is unsusable.

I appreciate you help

Patrick

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/10/2023, 5:18 AM

I'm still not certain what is wrong in the second video the top black border has gone and the image does look to me to zoom in correctly. Perhaps you could take a video screen shot using the windows snipping tool with the microphone on and tell me exactly what it is doing wrong for you. Make sure you have the microphone turned on before you start recording. This video is little quick to follow but it does show when and how to turn the microphone on. One thing I forgot to mention was if you need to change the zoom effect of the image always delete any previous effects before you do. Otherwise you can have some weird effects of the image zoom in then out etc. Here is my video on the subject.

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David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/10/2023, 5:58 AM

Sorry Patrick I forgot to add the link for a youtube video on using the Windows Snipping Tool. Which you can now be used to video the screen as you work on the PC its both a snip tool and video capture tool for what ever you are doing on your PC. Here is the link

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/10/2023, 1:08 PM

@patrick-drouet

Hi,

Camera/zoom shot is made expressly for creating a zoom in or out over time. Keyframes are created automatically. That is what you did. If that is not what you want, do not use that effect.

If you want a simple static zoom, then use Size/Position/Rotation. I did several tutorials on this for Movie Studio, same thing.

John CB

I wonder if John is more in tune with your problem than I am.

The Zoom function is designed to recreate what you may see when a video camera zooms into a part of the scene. Photostory Camera Zoom can be used with both video clips and still images. I wonder are you wanting just to see a smaller section of an image as if you had zoomed in with a still camera. If so you may know this as cropping an image but Magix for some reason calls it "Section" With section you just select the area you want to see, the final image will be a crop of the image see my video here. For more details;

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johnebaker wrote on 12/10/2023, 4:26 PM

@patrick-drouet

Hi

What you are trying to achive with the Camera Zoom effect is, as @browj2 commented above, better done using the Size position & Rotation effect.

Below is an example of how to do this - in essence:

  1. Select the image/video followed by the Size Position & Rotation effect
     
  2. Position the timeline cursor to where the zoom is to start, and add a keyframe
     
  3. Move the timeline cursor to where the zoom should end, increase the width value of the image to give the required 'zoom', I typed this in - there are other ways of changing this value, this will automatically change the height of the image/video as well, and adds the second keyframe.
     
  4. Drag the image so the area of interest is centred
     
  5. Deselect the image/video clip

HTH

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David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/10/2023, 5:18 PM

Never knew how to use that, I have just increased the time the image displays which seems to do almost the same. What are the key differences between what you do here and using Camera Zoom and a longer time line for the image.

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/10/2023, 5:32 PM

This is how I make the zoom of an image last a longer time

patrick-drouet wrote on 12/10/2023, 8:46 PM

Hi David,

The second video also has the same problem, excepted that the size extend horizontally instead of vertically on the first video. In both cases the size of the image is extended during the effect, either zoom or section. This is also the same if I use John way of creating a zoom.

I really do not understand what is wrong

patrick-drouet wrote on 12/11/2023, 3:12 AM

Hello David, John,

I just found the root cause, the ratio in the export menu was different from the one of my pictures (3:2). This work now but the definition is limited to 720x480. Besides that the 16:9 box in the project setting is quite confusing. Thank you so much for your time and tutos.

Patrick

David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/11/2023, 3:17 AM

I never knew there were ratio settings in the export menu, I can only see quality settings but as long as you have the issue resolved thats all that matters. Enjoy Photostory and your day.

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johnebaker wrote on 12/11/2023, 3:49 AM

@David-Robinson5527

Hi

Sounds like you are using the Export button top right of the program interface. Use File, Export to see all possible options.

John EB

@patrick-drouet

My example was using a short image to demonstrate the method, the the start zoom timing depends entirely on where you position the timeline cursor for the first keyframe thelength of the zoom where the cursor is moved to before resizing.

Camera zoom achieves the same result however involves more work to get it to do exactly what you want, once applied you then have to move the keyframes.

Using SPR and keyframes you can be more creative in the effect. I will create a demo later when I have free time.

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David-Robinson5527 wrote on 12/11/2023, 4:03 AM

I look forwards to that thank you

johnebaker wrote on 12/14/2023, 9:46 AM

@David-Robinson5527

Hi

Here are 2 examples of Picture in Picture that can be done in Photostory just using Size, Position and Rotation (SPR) effect in both demos, plus Brightness and Color change for the background image, and black images to create the drop shadows in the second clip.

The timelines look complicated however in both examples each image with SPR applied it is 'rinse and repeat', changing the necessary parameters of SPR.

The above image is a composite so you can see all tracks.

See the @browj2 tutorials on the SPR effect parts 1 to 4 listed here - the principles are the same for Photostory

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