Capture Sputtering - DV Tape

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/7/2021, 11:26 PM

Hi Gang

Previously successfully captured many hours of Mini DV Tape directly to 'outside' esta connected drive, (using MEP 2013 Plus). Device and Fire Wire recognized with No Problems until the program started to freeze up.

I completely un-installed MEP 2013 Plus, then Re-Installed it (along with MEP 2015).

Opened MEP 2015 and began capturing until the capture sequence Stalled/Sputtered after 10 seconds or more. Eventually it no longer recognized the Device.

Then opened MEP 2013 Plus and started capturing successfully until it also Stalled/Sputtered ...

BTW, 'Normal Playback' is smooth and perfect (no Sputtering/Stalling), using the camera control interface. So the camera is definitely recognized. But Capture is currently problematic ...?

Tried obvious things: Different tape same results ... Different cable same results ...

Thank You for any ideas 😔

Mike

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For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

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AAProds wrote on 12/8/2021, 1:52 AM

@CarpentersMate Mike, try capturing to an internal drive to see if it's the external drive causing issues (probably not though if MEP 2015 "eventually no longer recognised the device"). AS I think you know, DV is only 13gb per hour so you should be able to get a few minutes capture done to your internal drive without clogging it up.

If no joy, try Scenealyzer (I think I've already given you that link, but just to make sure...😉)

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/8/2021, 3:14 AM

Hey AAProds - How ya doin?

As you mentioned DV data transfer rate shouldn't be a big deal. And everything was fine while capturing #6 tapes previously. How was that possible? 👺

As you suggested, transfer/capture was smooth (uninterrupted) thru the camera's Fire Wire back to the system drive.

Recognition, reading and pasting files back n forth thru esata goes smoothly to the other outside drive. But (so far), video doesn't transfer 'without' stutter anymore while being captured... ? 😳 What's different I wonder? 😯

More troubleshooting to follow ... 😨

We'll see - Thanks AAProds ...

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For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

johnebaker wrote on 12/8/2021, 3:49 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

To add to @AAProds comment  "eventually no longer recognised the device".

If the eSATA power management is at its default settings it will turn off after a specified idle time. You should be able to turn of the 'Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power' option in the Properties of the eSATA controller or hard drive in Device manager, or in the Windows Power options, Advanced settings.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/8/2021, 4:10 AM

Hi John

I just ordered 2 new 6' esata cables (the longer length to prevent them from being pulled out accidentally). I've also read where some folks have had their cables fail after a while from plugging and unplugging ...? But that seems unlikely ... ?

Anyway these enclosures are older OWC (non-raid) (dual bay esata) enclosures which have their own power supplies, circuit boards and built-in fans for cooling ... see samples

However I will check into those 'Power Options' ....

The interruptions are totally erratic occuring sometimes every few seconds to close to a full minute ...

Thank You John!

Mike

 

For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

johnebaker wrote on 12/8/2021, 5:16 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

. . . .  interruptions are totally erratic occuring sometimes every few seconds to close to a full minute . . . .

That is definitely not power management, do the eSATA boxes a USB connection? If so is this OK?

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/8/2021, 5:19 AM

"do the eSATA boxes have USB connection"

Strickly esata (no combos)

Just captured more than 16 minutes (no stutter), using fresh install of 'MEP 2016 Plus' ... Unless using MEP 2016 made the difference (instead of version 2013 & 2015), I'm guessing this chalks up to poor cable connections? My fault ...

With testing completed I'll be looking for a stripped down faster i7 Optiplex and will add all the hardware ...

Three Minute Extract:

http://www.ww2survivorstories.com/342-USAF-17025.mp4

BTW John - The gals at the 'Magix Service Center' are terrific!

Thanx John & AAProds!

Mike

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For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.