Easiest video format for the software to work with

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wongck wrote on 7/26/2020, 10:07 PM

Graphics card: Onboard, min. resolution 1280 x 1024, 512 MB VRAM and DirectX 11 support (recommended: Intel Graphics HD 520 for MPEG2/AVC/HEVC)

It is really unfortunate that the specification wordings are really not clearly expressed.

For me, an extra sentence.... "Hardware encoding supported only by Intel HD graphics" ...... or better still "Nvidia and AMD hardware encoding not supported".... will definately make it crystal clear. But then may be they do not want to really mention that due to marketing reasons.

In any case, one can always edit and make a video in MEP and export it to some raw format, then use another FREE tool that uses the Nvidia 1050 build-in H.265 encoder to encode HEVC, if you really need H.265. Takes additional task outside MEP and 15 mins (well it depends on your video length). No biggy at all.

Alternatively, just use another free video encoding tool like DR. Well that come itself comes with another set of issues.... Fusion is just too complicated for simple stuff used by a home video users.

 

Casual home video editing just for FUN since MEP 5.5.4.1 (2006??)

  • MEP 17.0.3.177 & unused Vegas Pro 15
  • Win10 2004 i7-4770 3.4GHz, 32GB, 512GB Nvme, 4TB HDD, Nvidia GTX1070 (26.21.14.3160) & an old DVD writer
  • Amateur video equipment: Sony HDR-CX675, JVC GZ-MG330
pcs800 wrote on 7/27/2020, 11:30 AM

@pcs800

Here's media info on one of the clips. Unfortunately that does not show enough detail. See the note at the bottom of the screenshot where it say "Note - for more information about the file......." - please select the "Text View" from the View menu and copy and paste the info into you post.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Eric\Videos\IQ\The Way We Burn\Cam 2\MP4\Bikes - Tim-Brad\00002.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 7.93 MiB
Duration                                 : 13 s 560 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 4 909 kb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf54.63.104

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 13 s 560 ms
Duration_FirstFrame                      : 40 ms
Bit rate                                 : 4 753 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 4 496 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.092
Stream size                              : 7.66 MiB (97%)
Writing library                          : x264 core 129
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x131 / me=dia / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=8 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4496 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 13 s 504 ms
Duration_FirstFrame                      : 64 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 165 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 272 KiB (3%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

Scenestealer wrote on 7/27/2020, 5:45 PM

@pcs800

Hi

Thanks for the Media Info. That looks pretty typical of the material that most MEP users would be working with, so nothing jumps out there. However being AVC H.264 it would still be utilising the the Intel GPU Quick Sync hardware layer for on the fly decoding / encoding of the timeline during playback of transitions and effects. Very low bitrate for Full HD.....

Peter

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System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 2004, MEP2016, 2022 (V21.0.1.92) Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX12 (V18.0.1.85). Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 2004, MEP2015 Premium.

AAProds wrote on 7/28/2020, 4:54 AM

I'm going to side with PCS800 here. Magix has been (probably not deliberately) vague about how MEP uses graphics cards. Given the plethora of high-end card options there are and why they are used, it would be reasonable ot assume that a graphics program like MEP would use the latest and greatest external card. Fair enough that it doesn't, but Magix should shout it out in plain language, because it is not logical.

I'm just mighty relieved that I have read these performance threads; I am considering an upgrade and probably would not have specifically considered the iGPU "requirement", based on the published specs.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

pcs800 wrote on 8/3/2020, 2:20 PM

Thanks to everyone for trying to help. My work around is this.

  • Proxy files
  • I bought Cyberlink PowerDirector to use along side MEP. It directly supports Nvidia and AMD hardware acceleration.