When I load the video file onto the timeline from the import section, the last 45 to 60 seconds are cut off. I know the file is longer because I can play the end of it on the local media player. This is the first time this has happened... so... is there a cache issue... something I'm missing?
Hi
We need more information - computer specification, Movie Edit Pro version and a MediaInfo analysis of the video file.
See this topic for details of the information required.
John EB
Forum Moderator
Hi Chad.
Have you tried dragging the right hand side of the clip further to the right? Your Icon should turn from being an arrow to looking like two vertical bars with small outward pointing arrows left and right of the two vertical lines.
You may have to shrink the view first if it is the only clip on the timeline.
Ray.
Johnebaker: here's the version... Windows 10. Here's the MediaInfo.
One other tidbit... this file wasn't loaded entirely, but the others that were in the project were loaded entirely. Only this one.
@CubeAce yes.. tried that... didn't work. Also made sure the timeline endclip was at the end.
I've been using Movie Edit Pro for 5 months... this is a first.
Hi
Can you post the MediaInfo data from the Text view, the overview does not give the information required - this was stated in the topic I linked to.
John EB
@johnebaker oops.. here it is:
General
Complete name : E:\Table media for 08232020\MOV_0056.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 2.68 GiB
Duration : 12 min 41 s
Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
com.android.version : 10
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 12 min 41 s
Bit rate : 30.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 27.734 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 15.008 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 30.030 FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.174
Stream size : 2.66 GiB (99%)
Title : VideoHandle
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
Color range : Limited
colour_range_Original : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
colour_primaries_Original : BT.601 PAL
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
transfer_characteristics_Original : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
matrix_coefficients_Original : BT.470 System B/G
mdhd_Duration : 761698
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 12 min 41 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 23.2 MiB (1%)
Title : SoundHandle
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:54:26
Hi
As I suspected the video frame rate mode is Variable, Movie Edit Pro does not work well variable framerate video - many other video editors also do not like variable frame rate.
The video must be Constant frame rate - you need to run the video through a video converter program such as Handbrake to change the frame rate to constant - keep all the other parameters ie bitrate, resolution and file format the same.
HTH
John EB
@johnebaker I get that... all the other movie files in the project are variable frame rates as well. Just don't know why this one is a problem. It was recorded the same as the rest.
@johnebaker
For instance... no problem with this movie file in the same project:
General
Complete name : E:\Table media for 08232020\MOV_0055.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size : 4.00 GiB
Duration : 18 min 55 s
Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
com.android.version : 10
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 18 min 55 s
Bit rate : 30.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 27.939 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 15.008 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 30.020 FPS
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.165
Stream size : 3.97 GiB (99%)
Title : VideoHandle
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
Color range : Limited
colour_range_Original : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
colour_primaries_Original : BT.601 PAL
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
transfer_characteristics_Original : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
matrix_coefficients_Original : BT.470 System B/G
mdhd_Duration : 1135539
Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 18 min 55 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 34.7 MiB (1%)
Title : SoundHandle
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
Tagged date : UTC 2020-08-22 18:41:43
Hi
. . . . all the other movie files in the project are variable frame rates as well . . .
This is possible if the average frame rate of these files is much closer to the project frame rate and range variation is small enough.
The clip that is at issue has a range of 15 to 30 fps (rounded off) with an average of 27.73 fps.
What was the recording device - can it be set to record at constant frame rate?
John EB
@johnebaker Samsung Note 9... using Cinema FV-5 app. Checking both the app and native camera... if there is an option between variable and constant, it doesn't seem intuitive... couldn't find it.
Currently running the file through Handbrake... I'll let you know the result.
btw... while we're on the Note 9... any way to override the 12-minute limit? I've monkeyed with all sorts of settings.. I have the "limit file duration" toggle off on the Cinema FV-5, but still automatically shuts down (and restarts as a new file) after 12 minutes.
There is a 4GB file size limit to most devices due to the file being compliant with other devices such as memory cards that may have formatting restrictions (Like FAT 32). So it's not a 12 minute limit as such, more of a file size limit. If you have to end up recording at a constant frame rate to avoid future editing problems (most likely) you will see that time limit fall further.
Ray.
Hi
In the FV5 app video section you have to turn on custom settings mode, you can then set the framerate, however you will need to use MediaInfo to check it is delivering constant frame rate
HTH
John EB
Here are the current settings for Cinema FV 5 that gave me the variable framerate:
Looking at those options, none of them are optimal. All of them are about saving storage space and easier live streaming. All of them could and probably will give a variable frame rate output. It would seem the way of things with newer phones. Most files would need converting after.
It may be worth looking at the Android developers site. for further information.
Ray.
@johnebaker Many thanks. Constant rate through Handbrake worked! That's awesome. Guess I'll have to have Handbrake as a standby...