Hi CubeAce,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, you're right about my graphics, just inboard Radeon. The processor is AMD Ryzen 7 5700UI, with 8Gb of RAM.

I will have to look up the finer details of the specs you suggested VRAM etc. but, on the face of it, I find it hard to understand how the same plug-in will allow exporting in Photostory, but not Movie Edit, if the specs of the computer are insufficient.

Also, as I said, the actual effect works fine in the timeline. I would have thought the export function would work as it would for any movie in the timeline. As I see it, it's just a bunch of frames to process and write to disk. An error in playing that exported file I could understand more. There again, I'm no expert on the inner workings of the application.

I'll probably end up getting in touch with both Magix Support and/or NewBlue to see what, if anything, they can come up with.

Thanks anyway

Mick

@Michael-Stevens

Hi

. . . . ManagerGL64.dll . . . .

This is a NewBlue dll file.

That it works correctly in Photostory 2022 and not MEP 2021 could point to the difference in the Infusion 'engines', of the 2 products, Photostory 2022 uses Infusion 3 and MEP 2021 uses the Infusion 2.

If Cartoonr is the older free version I also cannot get it to work with MEP 2021.

John EB
Forum Moderator

@Michael-Stevens

Hi Micheal.

I have never used photo story but the specs to run that program are much lower and quite possibly is using a completely different rendering engine within the program. What video resolution are you able to export to with Photo Story as I notice it doesn't go above HD, certainly not 4K or 8K as MEP can.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . What video resolution are you able to export to with Photo Story as I notice it doesn't go above HD, certainly not 4K or 8K as MEP can . . . .

Photostory 2022 can export MP4 up to 4K 4096 x 2160 at 24, 25 and 30 fps, 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 at up to 60 fps.

John EB

Hi Ray,

Photostory 2022 can do up to 4K, the test I did with CartoonR Plus was FullHD.

I've just seen another post from @johnebaker that tells me Photostory 2022 uses Infusion3 to compile while MEP uses Infusion 2 and he can't get it to work on MEP either. Starting to look like I'm doomed!

Mick

@Michael-Stevens

Hi

. . . . ManagerGL64.dll . . . .

This is a NewBlue dll file.

That it works correctly in Photostory 2022 and not MEP 2021 could point to the difference in the Infusion 'engines', of the 2 products, Photostory 2022 uses Infusion 3 and MEP 2021 uses the Infusion 2.

If Cartoonr is the older free version I also cannot get it to work with MEP 2021.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Hi John,

Yes, this is the older free version. Looks like you're on to something, sounds quite compelling.

Thanks

Mick

@Michael-Stevens

I must have been typing while John was replying. Didn't see his post.

It will teach me to run through a programs complete specs in future.

@johnebaker

Does that mean it should run in MEP 2022 John?

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

If I can find the installer in my archive I am going to test it, in theory it should, I suspect the Infusion 3 engine is better/more stable when using GPU's for effects.

John EB

Hi, just had a play with a 21secs, 4k 3840x2160 clip, it really struggled, it wouldn't play unless i created proxies & clicked the lightening symbol, after prerendering it played fine, exporting estimate was 1hr, then dropped to 33mins but didn't do much after 10mins of exporting as if it had frozen.

btw, this was a 4k 3840x2160 screen capture of it, to upload it here

I exported with Magix MEP Premium @ MP4 FHD 1920x1080, it took 0.44secs

I tried rendering with Vegas, same settings MP4 HD 1920x1080, it took 0.58secs 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

@Former user

Hi,

Just wondered if you are aware that Creating Proxies would bring less benefit to smooth playback than pre-rendering in that pre-rendering, whilst also creating a proxy, also renders the cartooner effect - so most of the work is done prior to hitting play.

 but didn't do much after 10mins of exporting as if it had frozen.

It may well have frozen! Did you check that the exported file had all the frames when viewed?

If you are using MEP2022 then there have been problems with the export preview window freezing after which the rest of the file is blank even though the export completes. Are you on the latest .104 patch?

Peter

@Scenestealer Hi, I was trying a bit of everything to be honest, I just got an update for MEP Premium the other day, I understand the main concept of prerendering but I didn't know it created proxies as well, In another comment i have problems with prerender ignoring crossfades so that's interesting, thanks 👍 there are no crossfades in this, as i wrote it played well with prerender, the prerender process was fast 👍 No i didn't check an exported file, it got to a point where there was no movement, it didn't complete, there may have been a half completed export but sorry i've cleaned out that file now 🤦‍♂️🤣 I'll have another go later, I should be working but spent most of the morning playing with editing software 🤣🤣🤣

Thanks

@Former user @Scenestealer

Hi.

Regarding pre-rendering. Using the Auto setting often misses parts the program thinks will play smoothly and is better to do manually be selecting a range and then select 'Range' in the pre-render box. The problem then is any alteration of that section will not show up on playback.

Ray.