Help a noob decide on a product!

ozmitch wrote on 9/4/2019, 5:36 AM

Hi everyone,

I need a piece of software for a one off video editing job (happy to pay money for it), but not entirely sure what software I need.

I *think* I need MEP, but allow me to explain the project and you can recommend.

EDITING PC: i5 4670 (3.4Ghz) w 8GB of RAM, Win7 64 Bit, and 512GB SSD.

PROJECT INFO:
1. I have about 20 legitimate stock footage videos which allows editing rights (all in .MOV format).
2. I want to import them into a single promotional video (which will be on a website frontpage), with transitions/text in between scenes.
3. Video will be hosted on Youtube (non monetized) in 1920 x 1080, and as high fps as I can get away with (I think stock footage is 25-29fps).
4. An MP3 music track will be added, and I want the transitions to be synced with when the music changes (it's an impactful piece).
5. I want to be able to add text to the video (not just intro/outro), but during / between scenes.
6. Video will only be about 3 minutes in total, and I'll export in probably MP4 format (but can be anything really).

I think that about covers it. I was looking at MEP Platinum, but not sure it does everything I need.

Keep in mind my extend thus is using Windows Movie Maker, so it doesn't need to be the same sort of stuff Speilberg and Dreamworks use :)

Thanks for any replies or input.

Comments

CubeAce wrote on 9/4/2019, 7:14 AM

@ozmitch

Yes, you can do all that within MEP but it may struggle with your system specs. You may have to proxy edit for smoother playback in editing and rendering times may be long. This would be true of most current editing packages though as things have moved on since your system was made. I'm using an older i5 than yours and just managing.

I would go for the Pro Premium package while it's on offer for around $67:00 for all the added features and effects.

 

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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johnebaker wrote on 9/4/2019, 9:12 AM

@ozmitch

Hi

. . . . MEP Platinum . . . .

I assume you mean MEP Premium.

A few points to be aware of:

. . . . legitimate stock footage videos which allows editing rights . . . .

Editing rights are not the same as commercial use, do they allow commercial use, eg advertising, without royalties ie are royalty free, they may have some restriction such as attribution requirements?

If the movie clips are subject to Copyright or not, you should make it clear in the video that only the compilation is copyright to yourself.

You may also get copyright infringement claims on YT - if the video clips are royalty free or have no restrictions for commercial use, then such a claim is likely, however when you counter the claim and demonstrate to YT that your use is legitimate then YT are usually quick to remove the claim.

. . . . 1920 x 1080, and as high fps . . . .

Keep the framerate the same as the imported movies - going higher will not gain anything except a larger file size.

. . . . An MP3 music track will be added . . . .

As for the editing rights above re Copyrights and Royalties and terms of use.

. . . .I'll export in probably MP4 format (but can be anything really) . . . .

YT support other formats however MP4 is preferred, their specs are here. Do note that they will create lower resolution versions to match viewers Internet connection speeds.

HTH

John EB
 

 

 

 

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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ozmitch wrote on 9/4/2019, 10:22 AM

@ozmitch

Yes, you can do all that within MEP but it may struggle with your system specs. You may have to proxy edit for smoother playback in editing and rendering times may be long. This would be true of most current editing packages though as things have moved on since your system was made. I'm using an older i5 than yours and just managing.

I would go for the Pro Premium package while it's on offer for around $67:00 for all the added features and effects.

Thanks for the reply :)

That's exactly what I was looking at. Lifetime license and it's at a pretty good price.

I've used Windows Movie Maker in the past for basic stuff without any real issues.

@ozmitch

Hi

. . . . MEP Platinum . . . .

I assume you mean MEP Premium.

A few points to be aware of:

. . . . legitimate stock footage videos which allows editing rights . . . .

Editing rights are not the same as commercial use, do they allow commercial use, eg advertising, without royalties ie are royalty free, they may have some restriction such as attribution requirements?

If the movie clips are subject to Copyright or not, you should make it clear in the video that only the compilation is copyright to yourself.

You may also get copyright infringement claims on YT - if the video clips are royalty free or have no restrictions for commercial use, then such a claim is likely, however when you counter the claim and demonstrate to YT that your use is legitimate then YT are usually quick to remove the claim.

. . . . 1920 x 1080, and as high fps . . . .

Keep the framerate the same as the imported movies - going higher will not gain anything except a larger file size.

. . . . An MP3 music track will be added . . . .

As for the editing rights above re Copyrights and Royalties and terms of use.

. . . .I'll export in probably MP4 format (but can be anything really) . . . .

YT support other formats however MP4 is preferred, their specs are here. Do note that they will create lower resolution versions to match viewers Internet connection speeds.

HTH

John EB
 

 

 

 

That's the one ... MEP Premium.

All the stock footage and audio I'm using is from Envato Elements / Market and comes with a Commercial license that they've confirmed is 100% fine for me to use in such a project :)
https://elements.envato.com/license-terms

Thanks for the heads up though.

Appreciate the other tips and information as well. So my video should be the same as the lowest framerate video that I am importing?

I'm hoping to be able to time the video transitions/text with certain parts of the music.

 

johnebaker wrote on 9/4/2019, 11:02 AM

@ozmitch

Hi

. . . . So my video should be the same as the lowest framerate video that I am importing? . . . .

I would go with the majority framerate, that way most of the clips potentially will not show the effects of changing framerate up or down due to an effect called Pulldown.

. . . . I'm hoping to be able to time the video transitions/text with certain parts of the music . . . .

That is a little more challenging matching the music to the length of the action in the video clips. When you get it right the effect is amazing.

. . . . Envato Elements . . . .

An interesting business model - subscription based / permanent use - this is different from many of the stock video/graphics/image sites.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 9/4/2019, 11:03 AM

@ozmitch

I found MEP to be pretty intuitive and my previous experience was pretty limited. It shouldn't take long to get to grips with.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

ozmitch wrote on 9/4/2019, 10:03 PM

@ozmitch

Hi

. . . . So my video should be the same as the lowest framerate video that I am importing? . . . .

I would go with the majority framerate, that way most of the clips potentially will not show the effects of changing framerate up or down due to an effect called Pulldown.

. . . . I'm hoping to be able to time the video transitions/text with certain parts of the music . . . .

That is a little more challenging matching the music to the length of the action in the video clips. When you get it right the effect is amazing.

. . . . Envato Elements . . . .

An interesting business model - subscription based / permanent use - this is different from many of the stock video/graphics/image sites.

HTH

John EB

Thanks for the tips. If the frame rate is too different do you get tearing or dragging/skipping on the video?

https://elements.envato.com/inspiring-motivational-emotional-trailer-Q2SK5P3
That's the piece of music I'm looking to use, which leads itself to (hopefully) being able to match up short scenes with text popping each time the string section comes on strong. Very emotionally piece of music.

That place as far as I know is one of few that allow a flat rate per month for video/images/etc. Most you have to pay credits for video.

Since it's a niche market I'm working with (freight and logistic supplies), it was also one that had some of those items.

@ozmitch

I found MEP to be pretty intuitive and my previous experience was pretty limited. It shouldn't take long to get to grips with.

Sweet... I generally pick things up pretty quickly, so will grab the trial and take a look at it. :)

emmrecs wrote on 9/5/2019, 3:55 AM

@ozmitch

I don't think you will be disappointed!

I generally pick things up pretty quickly, so will grab the trial and take a look at it. :)

Just be aware that the Trial version is not the "full" version; certain features are disabled until you purchase. So, if you come across something which you "need", but cannot find, you would be best-advised to post here so that fellow-users can advise you whether that need can be met with the full version of MEP.

HTH

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 32 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, Audient EVO 16 audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Vegas Pro, PhotoStory Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam