How to access NewBlue FX in MS suite?

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OldNick1 wrote on 11/23/2022, 1:57 PM

Hi guys. I just want tp put my punkt for my part in the topic.

After maybe 5 emails, I have been told that I will get a refund of my upgrade to the Suite, as I tried again and still found I could not get it to work. I want to work on videos, not fight this.

I will say that I paid for and downloaded Corel's Video Studio Ultimate and a version of the Newblue stuff came as part of the offer. The method there was to send me a 2.8GB file, in which the NB stuff was included. It all went so smoothly that I did not realise I was installing the NB stuff until (IIRC) the installer said that it was doing this. HAS to be better then the crazy complex way Magix does it. It also eliminates my system as being involved AFAICS

Again, thanks for all the input.

Nick

johnebaker wrote on 11/23/2022, 3:39 PM

@OldNick1

Hi

I have not used that video editor for a long while, however there is one effect in there that would be very good for MMS/VPX and that is the non linear keyframing.

I find it funny that they have just added the Speech to text converter, this is old technology which has been built into Windows for a long while.

It was one of the video editors, in its original form ULead VideoStudio, I used to use before I moved over to Movie Edit Pro 11.

John EB

 

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OldNick1 wrote on 11/23/2022, 4:50 PM

@OldNick1

Hi

I have not used that video editor for a long while, however there is one effect in there that would be very good for MMS/VPX and that is the non linear keyframing.

I find it funny that they have just added the Speech to text converter, this is old technology which has been built into Windows for a long while.

It was one of the video editors, in its original form ULead VideoStudio, I used to use before I moved over to Movie Edit Pro 11.

John EB

 

I am aware of non-linear, but I need to investigate NL Keyframing more in Video Studio.I can chop and change and cherry-pick because over the years I have acquired various bits of software and some good upgrade paths/prices are open to me.

Hah! Maybe speech to text was one of those future offerings that they can provide in the "Upgrade" :)

I remember Ulead stuff. Not sure how much I used them. IIRC it was not video but 3d stuff?

Nick

browj2 wrote on 11/23/2022, 8:19 PM

@johnebaker @OldNick1

Hi,

I wasn't aware until recently about Speech to Text being prevalent. Other than recording and having that converted, I thought that it had to be done using Dragon Naturally Speaking. Even then, it had to be trained and was difficult. Recently, I found out that I have the feature with MicroSoft 365 and loaded up 20 minutes of an interview - me interviewing my mother, and it gave me both speakers. Amazing!

Ulead, now where did I see that recently...oh yeah. Here it is:

I also have Corel VS2021. Opened it once.

Nick, you didn't happen to get NB Total FX at some point did you? Strange problem that many users seem to be having.

John CB

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OldNick1 wrote on 11/24/2022, 6:53 AM

Hello John.

Corel's offering feels different from Magix's for sure. But once I stuck with it, it's not painful, and so far in many cases much simpler than Magix. As with all these programmes, you end up against some silly brick wall now and then.

It would appear I have had NB Total FX, as it is shown as registered against my account. I may look into seeing if I can somehow expunge it, as I obviously have not allowed my life to revolve around it :D, and see what happens. I am not in a rush, as at the moment I have a working version to run with.

Nick

browj2 wrote on 11/24/2022, 8:03 AM

@OldNick1

Hi Nick,

I recall from the Vegas forum that there were conflicts between a full package and parts. I'm not sure if that was for Boris or NB.

In any event, if you have NB Total FX, then you would already have the NB effects that came with Movie Studio. I suggest that you try to get the Total package working.

John CB

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CubeAce wrote on 11/24/2022, 10:10 AM

@OldNick1 @browj2

There has been an update package for NB Total FX.

Ray.

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OldNick1 wrote on 11/24/2022, 4:51 PM

@OldNick1 @browj2

There has been an update package for NB Total FX.

Ray.

Ah OK. I will check it out. I have to find out what my status is re that app. It is registered to me, but in the confusion I need to try to reinstate it for usage.😕.

Nick

 

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 5:23 AM

Hello John.

Corel's offering feels different from Magix's for sure. But once I stuck with it, it's not painful, and so far in many cases much simpler than Magix. As with all these programmes, you end up against some silly brick wall now and then.

OK. On further use, it seems to me that Corel's offering has far less control than Movie Studio. Very few FX seem to have any keyframe control. This of course makes Magix MS more complex, but more versatile and "Creative" (pun from back in the day).

Nick

 

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 5:46 AM

Ok I will post this here, as it's pretty much on topic and I am in the company of people who know about this stuff.

In all this confusion about FX, I give up on Newblue, but MS itself offered a lot of extras for download. Unfortunately, once it thinks I have downloaded stuff, it won't let me try again.

So what I am after is: how many FX are available to me as standard with MS and than with all the offered extras? I do not want a list, but just a count. I am not sure if I _actually_ have the added offerings.

Thanks for any help

Nick

AAProds wrote on 11/27/2022, 6:03 AM

@OldNick1

Unfortunately, once it thinks I have downloaded stuff, it won't let me try again.

Yes it will. Help>Install extra content will display this:

Tick what you want and download to your heart's "content".

Unless the EXE files for the above effects are on your machine somewhere...

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Windows 10 v21H2 Build 19044.2251

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.167

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 6:28 AM

@OldNick1

Unfortunately, once it thinks I have downloaded stuff, it won't let me try again.

Yes it will. Help>Install extra content will display this:

Tick what you want and download to your heart's "content".

Unless the EXE files for the above effects are on your machine somewhere...

Thanks for the rapid reply. Well maybe they are, because I cannot tick any of them. But am I seeing the resulting FX in the programme? Hence my need to have a count.

My story is this. After my experience with NBFX I am distrustful of the install of extras into MMS. For instance, I started to download Soundforge as offered, and then cancelled after a few seconds, deciding to download in off peak times. After that SF was dead to me and I could not tick it. Not good for trust.

Nick

 

AAProds wrote on 11/27/2022, 6:33 AM

@OldNick1

Here are some more screenshots explaining the download of the extra content.

Explaining where the install files are:

Download complete (install starts immediately you click OK).

Extra content EXE files folder location:

Have a look in there to see if your EXE files are there.

 

 

Windows 10 v21H2 Build 19044.2251

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.167

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 6:54 AM

hmmm none of the items inyour listing are there in the installationsmanager folder.. In fact the expression video_pro is not there. video_deluxe is there. All the contents of that folder look like complete install files for Video_deluxe, at 1GB plus size.

johnebaker wrote on 11/27/2022, 7:17 AM

@OldNick1

Hi Nick

. . . . video_deluxe is there . . . .

They are the correct ones for Movie Studio which is known as VideoDeluxe in the EU.

John EB

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AAProds wrote on 11/27/2022, 7:31 AM

@OldNick1

the expression video_pro

I probably confused you, "video_pro" refers to VPX 12, which are the last two files. As John says, MEP/MMS is "video_deluxe".

After I installed the extra content titles, here is what I have in the media pool, on the Templates tab, for titles. I've clicked on the last one to open it up.

 

Windows 10 v21H2 Build 19044.2251

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.167

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 8:01 AM

Yebut my problem is that none of the files indicate they are add-ons, but just major installs,.

AAProds wrote on 11/27/2022, 8:10 AM

@OldNick1

Yes, they are the program install files.

Given you said there are no extra content offerings (which sort of indicates the extras have already been installed), I'm trying to establish if you've got them or not. Check your titles to see if you've got the titles I have.

If you haven't, there must be a corrupted something in your Magix installation that's not showing the available content.

Windows 10 v21H2 Build 19044.2251

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.167

OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 8:37 AM

@OldNick1

the expression video_pro

I probably confused you, "video_pro" refers to VPX 12, which are the last two files. As John says, MEP/MMS is "video_deluxe".

After I installed the extra content titles, here is what I have in the media pool, on the Templates tab, for titles. I've clicked on the last one to open it up.

 

 

HAH! You guys are so rapid-fire I am gasping! :D

Yes I do have those available and that looks as if I have the extra stuff installed and recognised.

I wish I had known about all these secret install files so I did not have to lose data re-downloading when things do not work!

 

johnebaker wrote on 11/27/2022, 10:09 AM

@OldNick1

Hi

To round off the Extra Content query - the download manager should look as shown in the image below when all the extras are installed.

If you upgraded from a previous version such as MMS 2022, only content which needs upgrading will be available for selection.

In the image below I upgraded to MMS 2023 from 2022 , however the 2023 content is still the same as 2022 so nothing was upgraded.

John EB

VPX 14, Movie Studio 2023, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2023.

PC - running Windows 11 21H2 Professional 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 2Tb (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB HDD (Data) internal HDD + 60GB internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 22H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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OldNick1 wrote on 11/27/2022, 3:12 PM

Yep and that is what I see. My problem was that I did not trust it, as I say, because an aborted download of Soundforge resulted in its being untickable, although it was not there on my system