How to upload to youtube with 60FPS

Temptica wrote on 2/23/2020, 10:05 AM

Hello,

I make 4K video's and upload them to youtube. But when they apear on youtube, it apears to be in 30fps instead of 60 fps which is the FPS my project is in. It does upload in 4K, but it doesn't upload it in 60 FPS as you can see here:
(Go to the video quality settings to see the difference)

For my video's, its important to have it in 60FPS for smoother coaster rides. Is it possible to do this with the magix Video delux plus 2020 Steam Edition? If so, how do I do this? (This is how it should be . This video was made with my old editor)

Thank you for the help,
Temptica

 

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johnebaker wrote on 2/24/2020, 1:34 AM

@Temptica

Hi

Are you encoding to the Youtube recommended settings here and exporting to mp4 file and then using YT's own uploader?

Do note that:

  1. YT will re-encode your uploads to various resolutions, down to as low as 240p, for viewers different Internet connection speeds
     
  2. It is the viewers decision to select higher resolution views, by default the YT player resolution selection is set to Auto and will detect the Internet connection speed and deliver what it thinks is the best quality to ensure smooth playback.
     
  3. There is nothing you can do about either of the above this and may be the reason why you are getting a lower framerate when playing your uploaded video.

HTH

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CubeAce wrote on 2/24/2020, 9:46 AM

@Temptica

Let's make sure I understand what you are doing.

Are you using Magix Video Delux Plus to do screen captures?

If so, not all file format exports from the screen grab section support 60fps at 4K.

However, once recorded they could be exported in other file formats at the correct fps.

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Temptica wrote on 2/24/2020, 11:16 AM

@CubeAce
No, I record everything with Nvidea Expirience app. It records in 4K in 60 FPS. I'm now testiong a lot to see if I can find where I might make a mistake. I think the link you've send @johnebaker could help me out. I think it might have to do something with the bitrate, which might be too low for the video delux plus, I'll keep you updated!

johnebaker wrote on 2/24/2020, 11:51 AM

@Temptica

Hi

. . . . I record everything with Nvidea Expirience app . . . .

Do you mean NVidia ShadowPlay?

. . . . It records in 4K in 60 FPS . . . .

We need a definitive analysis of a recording to determine what it actually is doing - use MediaInfo and post the results from the Text view.

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Temptica wrote on 2/25/2020, 4:15 AM

General
Complete name                            : D:\Users\Gebruiker\Documents\MAGIX\Video deluxe 2020 Plus Steam Edition\TommyT Hi-Speed\Planet Coaster 2020.02.16 - 11.57.36.05.DVR_2020BA4F.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 1.73 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Overall bit rate                         : 49.5 Mb/s
Recorded date                            : 2020
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Source duration                          : 5 min 0 s
Bit rate                                 : 49.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 56.145 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 63.559 FPS
Original frame rate                      : 60.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.223
Stream size                              : 1.72 GiB (100%)
Source stream size                       : 1.72 GiB (100%)
Title                                    : VideoHandle
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.470 System M
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
mdhd_Duration                            : 300376
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Source duration                          : 5 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 96.0 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 6.98 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 6.98 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : SoundHandle / System sounds
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-16 10:57:44
mdhd_Duration                            : 300363
 

This is the result of the edited video.
under here is the result of the recorded one:
 

General
Complete name                            : D:\Users\Gebruiker\Videos\Planet Coaster\Planet Coaster 2020.02.22 - 11.56.53.03.DVR.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 1.47 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Overall bit rate                         : 42.2 Mb/s
Recorded date                            : 2020
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Source duration                          : 5 min 0 s
Bit rate                                 : 42.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 560 pixels
Height                                   : 1 440 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 42.634 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 63.830 FPS
Original frame rate                      : 60.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.190
Stream size                              : 1.47 GiB (100%)
Source stream size                       : 1.47 GiB (100%)
Title                                    : VideoHandle
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.470 System M
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
mdhd_Duration                            : 300076
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 5 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Nominal bit rate                         : 96.0 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 6.88 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : SoundHandle / System sounds
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-22 10:56:59
mdhd_Duration                            : 300061
 

Here is a screenshot with my recording settings:


Also, just so you know, the files are always recorded in slow motion. Then in the editor, I speed it up to the correct speed. This way, the video should look smoother, its a common used technique in planet coaster and flight simulators.

johnebaker wrote on 2/25/2020, 8:05 AM

@Temptica

Hi

Thanks for the MediaInfo analysis.

Exported video:

Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 56.145 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 63.559 FPS

Exporting and uploading to YT of variable frame rate video is not recommended - this causes YT encoding issues which may be why the framerate is reduced to 30 fps, it may also reduce the quality of the video when YT re-encodes it, at constant framerate this issue does not arise.

Recorded video:

The recording from NVidia is also variable framerate as you can see in the section of the analysis

Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 42.634 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 63.830 FPS

Movie Edit Pro expects a constant framerate video for best quality. There are many video converters which can do this - I use MovAvi.

. . . . This way, the video should look smoother, its a common used technique in planet coaster and flight simulators . . . .

I suspect that this is to overcome the issue of the capture not keeping up with the framerate of the game, ie it drops too many frames and reduces the framerate more to compensate.

In Movie Edit Pro I would also advise the following if you do not already do so:

  • turn on Interpolate intermediate images in the Effects, Video effects, Speed dialog - I find this gives a smoother video where there is movement.
  • Apply some Sharpness to the video using Movie Effects, Sharpness tab, Sharpness I find a value of about 30 is best for 4K (3840 x 2160) video.

HTH

John EB

 

 

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Temptica wrote on 2/25/2020, 8:25 AM

Hey,

Thank you for the help. Is there a way to put it on constant (for the video editor)?
Also thank you for the editing tips!

-Temptica

johnebaker wrote on 2/25/2020, 9:32 AM

@Temptica

Hi

. . . . Is there a way to put it on constant (for the video editor) . . . .

Movie Edit Pro (VideoDeluxe) export presets are all at constant framerate - which raises the following questions:

  1. what is the VideoDeluxe version number as found under Help, About?
     
  2. which method are you using for exporting the edited video ie are you using an export preset for exporting as mp4, if so which one, then using YT's uploader?

    OR

    Using the programs built in uploader ie Share, Youtube, Upload current movie as video?
     
  3. When you import the video do you get this message


    and then click Adjust?

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Temptica wrote on 2/25/2020, 11:14 AM

Hey @johnebaker,

This is the about window:


Here is the setting I use to start my projects:

And I uplaod it with the Share, Youtube, Upload current movie as video, and then follow the progress, I've tried it once by just rendering the MP4 but it gave the same result.

Edit: So when I add the recorded video, it chanches to this: (sorry, its in dutch)

Aparently, Nvidea records it in a lower resolution than I put in the settings...

- Temptica

johnebaker wrote on 2/25/2020, 12:30 PM

@Temptica

Hi

Thanks for the info.

. . . . Aparently, Nvidea records it in a lower resolution than I put in the settings... . . . .

It should record at your monitor resolution when recording full screen.

I assume your monitor resolution is 2560 x 1440.

Try the following:

  1. Start a new project and set it to 2560 x 1440 60fps
     
  2. Import a recording and click the Do not adjust option when it appears.
     
  3. Turn on Interpolate intermediate images in the Effects, Video effects, Speed dialog
     
  4. Apply some Sharpness to the video using Movie Effects, Sharpness tab, Sharpness, a value of about 30 should be OK.
     
  5. Export it as an MP4 ( Ctrl+Alt+G ) the export dialog should already be set to the same as the project settings.
     
  6. Upload the exported file to YT using the YT website uploader.

Hopefully you get some improvement.

HTH

John EB

 

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browj2 wrote on 2/25/2020, 12:40 PM

@Temptica

Also, in the Export settings, if you don't see your project settings show up, click on Display all and open the popdown.

At point 5 in John EB's post, the manual way is under File, Export...

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Temptica wrote on 2/25/2020, 1:48 PM

I found where the problem is, apparently, My monitor is indeed 2560x1440. I got told it was a 2160. I traded it for my old computer. So I'll make video's in 1440P then if thats possible.
Thank you for the help @browj2, @CubeAce and @johnebaker!