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yvon-robert wrote on 5/19/2020, 12:22 PM

Hi,

Probably you have to download and install the free Windows HEVC codec from Windows web site also install the HEIC codec. Before install the last Windows 10 update.

Regards,

YR

CubeAce wrote on 5/19/2020, 12:29 PM

@coachblack24

Possibly nothing wrong. The problem is if you are recording HEVC with a variable frame rate. On iPhones this can be switched off I think on the phone. For any other files you may have already, you made need to convert them first to constant a frame rate before most editors can handle them. To find out if the file is variable frame rate of not, download the free MediaInfo program (Link in blue) and see what the file readout says. Use the 'Tree View' and it will give all the details. If you don't understand the results from MediaInfo then post them here for us to look at. To convert variable frame rate files to constant frame rates you will need another program. One called Handbrake would do. Then that file can be used in your video editor. Variable frame rate recordings are still relatively new and designed to save memory space on your phone. Unfortunately the decoders don't seem to have made their way across to other editing software yet. This could be a deliberate holding back from the phone manufacturers.

Ray.

 

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AAProds wrote on 5/20/2020, 4:30 AM

Interesting. I just tried to import a video from my daughter's new iphone 11. MEP put up the message about buying the HEVC codec, which I did (US$5). I activated it, then imported the video no worries. Mediainfo gives the framerate as Variable "mode" ( I notice it shows overall framerate as 29.97):

General
Complete name                            : D:\Alwyn\Alwyn Graphics\Digital Pictures Photosync\Daughter's iPhone\Recents\20200520_134832.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 8.38 MiB
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 10.5 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:32
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:39
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model                : iPhone 11
com.apple.quicktime.software             : 13.4.1
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate         : 2020-05-20T13:48:32+0800

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID                                 : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms
Bit rate                                 : 10.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 30.000 FPS

Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.165
Stream size                              : 8.17 MiB (98%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:32
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:39
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : hvcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms
Source duration                          : 6 s 734 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 196 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 160 KiB (2%)
Source stream size                       : 161 KiB (2%)
Title                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:32
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-05-20 05:48:39

Other #1
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Other #2
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms

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Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 6 s 672 ms

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emmrecs wrote on 5/20/2020, 4:33 AM

@AAProds

Does that video play without problem? I know other users have encountered problems getting MEP to playback video with "variable" frame rate.

Jeff

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AAProds wrote on 5/20/2020, 5:15 AM

Cough cough splutter splutter, short answer, No, sorry about that! 😂. I gave it a quick play and it looked OK, but on closer examination (dragging play marker thru), it's jerky. I Handbraked the clip (had to set the framerate) and that one is smooth.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

johnebaker wrote on 5/20/2020, 2:52 PM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

. . . . Cough cough splutter splutter, short answer . . . .

That is exactly what the program is doing 😂😂 - trying to determine which frames it should be 'regenerating/creating', it may have to go back many frames to find the last I frame and then work forward again recreating the 'missing frames' where the frame rate has dropped, continuous playback should be smooth as it looks ahead and caches complete frames of video ready for display at the appropriate time.

John EB

 

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