Is this a new program or will it be an update option?

CubeAce wrote on 6/14/2020, 9:39 AM

As Video Pro X now comes with a new 'Infusion Engine'. does that make it effectively a new program or an update?

I ask because I'm not sure. I know those of you that have already downloaded it possibly paid to upgrade. Am I correct?

The other reason for asking is that at some point it will possibly also be ported over to Movie Edit Pro and this raises concerns for me because of the new system requirements that to my mind are not clear on the Video Pro X webpage.

Please look at the following image taken from the current Magix Video Pro X specification page.

My concerns began when looking at the complaints on this forum and checked where possible, peoples signatures to see the specs of their machines. Those that I could check, complaining that VP-X crashes all had graphics cards with 2GB of memory or less. Only John Baker who has a 6GB card did not report that as happening on his machine.

On checking the sites I could find information on, there is no current production of graphics cards that have 2GB of Vram or less. Most of what you can find on sale is 'New old stock'.

Then there is the question of the notices of the words 'Sound card Onboard'. Is this saying they have stopped testing for additional sound cards? The other is 'Installed up-to-date drivers is required'. So what is termed 'Up to date'? When was the last driver released for some of the older cards?

Does I wonder, Magix have a machine old enough with older CPU and graphics card to try out the new engine on to back up their minimum requirements and if so why the new graphics card recommendations?

These are just thoughts as to why maybe so many people are reporting problems. They may be completely unfounded but I still wonder at the spec changes mentioned on that page and why they are there.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 6/14/2020, 10:09 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

MEP and VPX when upgrading to the new version, are effectively new installs, they remove the previous version and install the new - see this comment for what was kept and removed.

. . . . Magix have a machine old enough with older CPU and graphics card to try out the new engine on to back up their minimum requirements and if so why the new graphics card recommendations? . . . .

If you look at the specifications again a 4GB card is only required for 8K video - above this section you will see it says 1GB minimum.

John EB

CubeAce wrote on 6/14/2020, 11:08 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Then why place the graphic card examples below the minimum requirements section rather then the exception for dealing with 8K?

I find companies to be specific about where they place such information. These examples were not a part of the Infusion 1 engine specs.

I have had other programs in the past make previous hardware obsolete. It can work that way around as well as having to update to newer versions of programs to be able to use new equipment. Mostly in the past that has come down to driver incompatibility but who knows?

People have been complaining of crashing or not seeing improvements over the old version.

I'm just asking so if anyone with lower spec graphics cards can comment on whether they have a stable system of not or seeing improvements or not.

Unfortunately, the people (If any) that are not experiencing problems are not likely to turn up on these forums.

It would also be nice to know the test systems Magix are using. We eventually got some idea with the last update and even then it seems they were using 1060 graphics cards.

Having a look at Jeff's signature though does show he is running a 2GB with no serious problems so far.

I would like to hear how it's going for him and see if he feels there is any improvement.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 6/14/2020, 11:48 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Then why place the graphic card examples below the minimum requirements section rather then the exception for dealing with 8K? . . . .

This is what I see under the System requirements page

John EB

CubeAce wrote on 6/14/2020, 2:19 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

But that 'example graphics cards' are right underneath the 'basic requirements'.

Sometimes manufacturers will do this type of thing rather than admit something needs more power.

It's like my Mini. The manufacturer doesn't tell me the increased performance of the Cooper over the One has meant it needs more services per mileage over the other.

Sorry if I seem jaded but it's the way I am.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 6/14/2020, 3:00 PM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . it's the way I am . . . .

OT:- add me to the list - I am so used to reading specs for equipment, cars and just about anything you can name (wives excluded) for nearly 55 years, that it is second nature for me.

. . . . the One . . .

That is a Mini on steroids - looks better than the standard Mini IMO. I do like the look of the Countryman.

John EB

CubeAce wrote on 6/14/2020, 4:18 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

The Countryman is larger but doesn't sound as solid when driving, noisier inside, doors don't shut with the same solid sound and is not as sharp cornering. Rear view is not that great. I'm on my sixth BMW mini since they first came out. I liked the first one's GM 1.6 litre engine but is was hard on tyres and thirsty for its performance. Paint job was appalling. The colour was called liquid yellow and it lived up to its name as by the time I replaced it the paintwork was actually slowly showing running streaks and was thin in places. Later models had a lag between the accelerator pedal and pickup but cool headlights and interior lighting. This is my first Cooper with a JCW body kit. The new BMW engine is a vast improvement on the earlier Peugeot collaboration and the already excellent brakes are even more impressive but the pad wear is much faster. Servicing is really expensive on the mileage I do. I spend over £1,500 a year on servicing not including brake pads, disks or tyres. I think if I did the average annual amount of miles it would probably be good value but I do more than 100,000 in three years.

Ray.

emmrecs wrote on 6/15/2020, 3:39 AM

@CubeAce

Having a look at Jeff's signature though does show he is running a 2GB with no serious problems so far.

I would like to hear how it's going for him and see if he feels there is any improvement.

Hi Ray.

No major problems so far, apart from the one where I discovered that Exporting as HEVC if the original footage is 59.94fps produces a static green image, but the same footage exported the same way at 29.97 produces a "good" file (this problem has been passed to Support to solve).

HTH

Jef

CubeAce wrote on 6/15/2020, 4:21 AM

@emmrecs

Thanks Jef.

That also answers my other one concern with your signature. I notice you running a Motu audio interface.

Would you say the overall experience is better though or hard to tell?

The way it's published you would expect improvements somewhere.

Ray.

emmrecs wrote on 6/15/2020, 4:40 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

When you say better or hard to tell I assume you are referring to the MOTU as against using the internal soundcard?

Because I do a lot of audio-only work, both music and speech, I would never consider using the internal soundcard and the MOTU, originally purchased quite a number of years ago, has proved excellent for such use. Nowadays I rarely need its 8 mic/line inputs but, in the future, who knows???

In a previous computer I had a (very nice) internal M-Audio card, but moving to Win 10 seems to have permanently "disabled" it.

Jeff

CubeAce wrote on 6/15/2020, 5:36 AM

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff.

That's good to know. I was referring to the general feel and use of the new program though.

Having now gone through four very expensive internal sound cards over the years I have given up on my new build. The new motherboard has as follows internal specs for sound.

ROG SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A
- Dual OP Amplifiers
- Impedance sense for front and rear headphone outputs
- Supports : Jack-detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-retasking
- High quality 120 dB SNR stereo playback output and 113 dB SNR recording input
- SupremeFX Shielding Technology
- Supports up to 32-Bit/192kHz playback
Audio Feature :
- SupremeFX Shielding™ Technology
- Optical S/PDIF out port(s) at back panel
- Dedicated audio PCB layers: Separate layers for left and right channels to guard the quality of the sensitive audio signals
- Premium Japanese-made audio capacitors: Provide warm, natural and immersive sound with exceptional clarity and fidelity.

All of which is better specified than my last sound card that topped out at 24 bit and so far sounds extremely good. Sample rates are the same but the signal to noise ratio is better. The main problem is finding external source material to match. I'm also not a fan of using 3.5mm jacks but they are coping. I thought I may suffer latency issues but that is no longer a concern.

Ray.