LAPTOP UP THE CREEK

MCK wrote on 3/9/2021, 2:31 PM

Hi all. My seven-month-old, expensive laptop is about to die, unable to cope with 4k editing, even though it should manage. Specs below.
All footage is 4k, all 100 mins of it, am downscaling to Full HD and creating proxies, lots of SFX. Are these specs lacking in any way? And is it recommended that I buy a laptop with at least 2TB hard drive, as I am cheesed off having to use externals?

WINDOWS 10 HOME
PROCESSOR: INTEL CORE i7
RAM 16GB
64-BIT
NVIDIA GeFORCE GTX 1050

MAGIX 15.0.4.176 (UDP3)

Thank you in advance!

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MCK wrote on 3/13/2021, 10:24 AM

Apologies if I have mentioned this one before, but does anyone think this could handle 4k editing... it's got 16GB Ram, 4k touchscreen, but am unsure if the processor has enough cores.

HP ENVY 15-ep0008na 15.6" 4K UHD Laptop i7-10750H 16GB 1TB SSD RTX 2060 with Max-Q 6GB W10

Operating system Windows 10 Home 64

Processor family 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor

Processor Intel® Core™ i7-10750H (2.6 GHz base frequency, up to 5.0 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 12 MB L3 cache, 6 cores)6,7

MDA key selling point

Windows 10 Home or other operating systems available

Chipset Intel® HM470

Memory 16 GB DDR4-2933 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)

Memory layout (slots & size) 2 x 8 GB

Internal Storage 1 TB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD

Display 39.6 cm (15.6") diagonal, 4K UHD (3840 x 2160), AMOLED, multitouch-enabled, UWVA, edge-to-edge glass, micro-edge, BrightView, 400 nits, 100% DCI-P3

Display size (diagonal) 39.6 cm (15.6")

Graphics Integrated

Graphics (integrated) Intel® UHD Graphics

Ports 2 Thunderbolt™ 3 (40Gbps signaling rate) with SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 10Gbps signaling rate (USB Power Delivery, DisplayPort™ 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge); 1 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate (HP Sleep and Charge); 1 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate; 1 HDMI 2.0a; 1 AC smart pin; 1 headphone/microphone combo

Audio features Audio by Bang & Olufsen; Dual speakers; HP Audio Boost 2.0

Full-size, backlit, cool gray keyboard

johnebaker wrote on 3/13/2021, 10:56 AM

@MCK

Looking at the laptops you have posted so far they will all handle with 4K video, however, IMHO, they are all lacking what I would consider necessary for what is going to be your main editing device and that is a larger screen size.

When I was researching for a laptop I ignored the 'marketing features' such as touch screens, flip screens, 4K resolution OLED screens, illuminated keyboards and concentrated on the basics plus expandability (important), overall size and weight.

It has been previously commented that the HP laptops are prone to getting hot under load.

John EB

CubeAce wrote on 3/13/2021, 11:16 AM

@MCK @johnebaker

I have to agree with John that screen size is important for checking quality. I'm not sure I could cope with laptops just for that alone and have never had a screen below 26" to work with. The problem with using smaller screens is everything looks great when it isn't. Every image I take on my cameras look great on the cameras view screen. It's only when you look at the files on larger screens you get to see the flaws such as noise, bad tonal graduations leading to banding and blocky looking colour in shaded areas and poor bokeh as well as poor panning, frame sheering and movement blur. All are much less obvious on smaller screens.

Six physical cores on an Intel CPU should be enough but that should also be coupled with the highest clock speed of the main core. Ram cache latency could be another problem but I'm not as up on that as I would like to be.

Even when you have your laptop you will need to take care on how it is set up to run to get best results.

That may be for a future discussion though.

Ray.

PATIENT-X wrote on 3/13/2021, 11:59 AM

@MCK

....unsure if the processor has enough cores.

6 to 8 cores is recommended for high end video editing, so the CPU is 6 cores.

I agree with @CubeAce that looking at camera screen and transferring to Pc, you can see the difference in photo quality and at times it can look stretched on pc monitor compared to looking great on camera screen.

It states on various website reviews that if you are not hooking up an external monitor then go for a 17in laptop.

Scenestealer wrote on 3/15/2021, 9:18 PM

@MCK @johnebaker

they will all handle with 4K video, however, IMHO, they are all lacking what I would consider necessary for what is going to be your main editing device and that is a larger screen size.

You may need to also consider the effect a 4K screen has on the GUI of VPX - I know Magix have upgraded this in latest versions to appear sharper on 4K screens but I seem to remember when 4K became a thing, forum members complaining that text and icons became too small and that scaling in Windows caused objects to get cut off?

The other thing to consider is that displaying 4K preview screens requires more system resources - CPU and GPU - for the same sized preview window(s) that then contain 4x the pixels.

Peter