I'm new to Win10. My understanding is that MS forces users to update to the OS every now and then. Suppose I install MEP now and a year and a half from now, I am forced to update Win10. Is that the same as a "reinstall" of MEP? IOW, will I lose my updates to MEP after a forced update of Win10?
When you buy MEP and register keep all relevant emails and activation codes somewhere safe. Copy them onto an external hard drive or hard print them or put onto USB stick or similar. Also passwords for your personal account with MAGIX. Alternatively you can also save a copy of the program to another drive when you install it. Terms and conditions are on the website. You may lose some of the offered limited time extra packages. Again, those with limited licenses should be mentioned on the web pages describing the product.
But the base program and any additional effects you buy can be re-downloaded from your account page at any time in the future. You will get an opportunity to upgrade when you have had the program after a year to keep the program up to date that you can or can not bother to do. That is up to you but you would lose any ability to update the program as newer updates and patches come out after that date if you don't. Updating Windows 10 should not make any difference. My last machine on Win 7 stopped working and I did a complete rebuild and changed to Win 10 and then downloaded the program from my account. This all happened about two months ago.
Thanks. In the "old" days, I did install MEP to my D: drive so that it would be independent of the OS. Still, upon upgrading from XP to Win7 (or maybe it was reinstalling Win7 after new hardware), MEP wanted to be reactivated over the Internet. Apparently Magix hides a file somewhere in Windows C: with registration info. (Although I remember having to reactivate after imaging to a new hard drive - so maybe it looks at disk signatures too?)
Different companies seem to have different ways of keeping tabs on their software. I have a program that needs an electronic dongle to plug into my PC that is the verification for the program to run. This I guess is Magix's way of securing their software.
. . . . I did install MEP to my D: drive so that it would be independent of the OS. Still, upon upgrading from XP to Win7 (or maybe it was reinstalling Win7 after new hardware), MEP wanted to be reactivated over the Internet. . . . .
Upgrading to Win 7/8/10 changes the computer id that is used to register the software, this also includes Windows 10 major upgrades eg 1809 >>1903 as these are, in effect, new installations.
Installing to another drive does not make the software totally independent of the OS, there are still portions of the program that must installed on the OS drive.
HTH
John EB
Interesting. I hate to abuse the term "death sentence," but if I understand this correctly, then for a user running Win10, which typically forces major upgrade once a year, I will lose all my updates to MEP after Win10 updates if it's after my one year with MEP. (Whereas with Win8.1 or 7, I could keep my MEP updates after the one year period as long as I don't reinstall MEP.) So in a way, it's like a death sentence for MEP.
I don't care so much about new feature updates per se. It's the bug fixes that I care about. I wouldn't mind if the new features went away. But I don't want old bugs back.
I think you are misunderstanding.
When you choose to not renew your Update Service your then current version of MEP will continue to run as well as it always had (or hadn't) but you will not receive any further updates/patches/new version.
In my experience, major Win 10 updates, e.g. 1809>1903 do NOT entail MEP or VPX needing to be re-registered.
OTOH, if you do choose to reinstall the app at any time after the Update Service has expired your version will revert to the one that was the last full version, i.e. all patches and updates released during the currency of the expired Update Service will NOT be available to you.
HTH
Jeff
Hi Jeff,
Just a precision, if you reinstall after the Update Service period has expired, you get the version with any updates (new features) that were available when you last paid. I can't say for the bug patches, but I think that you would get them for that version unless they were mixed in with new features.
As Jeff says, updates to Windows 10 do not require a reinstallation or we would all be screaming bloody blue murder. Thus, your version of MEP will keep on running through changes to W10. If MS comes out with W11, then you may have a problem.
My version of MEP was 2018 when I last renewed. It is now 2019 and outside the Update Service period. At no time have I had to reinstall MEP due to updates with W10.
John CB
Hi
. . . . I will lose all my updates to MEP after Win10 updates if it's after my one year with MEP. . . . .
AFAIK no - despite the Windows 10 upgrade you are not re-installing MEP - only re-activating it with the new OS.
HTH
John EB
Just a precision, if you reinstall after the Update Service period has expired, you get the version with any updates (new features) that were available when you last paid. I can't say for the bug patches, but I think that you would get them for that version unless they were mixed in with new features.
I don't think this is correct. I have just made the jump to Win 10 (new install) and my re-installed Xara Photo and Graphics Designer (purchased in 2018 and re-downloaded from my Magix product page) would not correctly open files that I created with it. It appears that an update within the 12 months of my purchase made changes which could not be read by the original version.
I contacted Support and got this reply:
"Please let me explain in more details. You have purchased the update service for a year. Within that year you get access to all updates, patches and contents that are accessible via the content catalogue.
When the update service expires you are unfortunately not entitled to these anymore.
You can of course still keep using the program further however, when you for some reason need to re-install the program again, you would go back only to the version that was released at the time of purchase, with no further updates."
It would appear that, unless you are still in the 12 month window, if you have to do a re-install, you'll lose all the updates that occurred in that window unless you fork out for another update period. That isn't very fair in my book.
Unless... there is a way of saving the updates as they come into the machine...
I realise I'm commenting on Xara PGD, but I assume that the issue is the same with MEP (as indicated by the OP).
You can of course still keep using the program further however, when you for some reason need to re-install the program again, you would go back only to the version that was released at the time of purchase, with no further updates."
I realise I'm commenting on Xara PGD, but I assume that the issue is the same with MEP (as indicated by the OP).
Yes this is exactly the same for MEP and happened to me.
No way of getting any updates again after that support period. It sucks, but that the way the market their products.