MAGIX Video deluxe 2026 Premium - My first voice over is the pits

spuddy13 wrote on 6/5/2026, 6:15 PM

I have made many productions now with everyones help and i am learning everytime

but this is stressing me big time

i used to make videos with txt info below my schenes..no speaking

then i loved a.i. so i used a voice that worked for me

but my family said why don't you speak in your productions we hate your voices

so i gave it a try

but my recording outputs are all different because i do over many days and i talk different and i am nearer or further from mike

some good

some quiet

some louder

so when watching the completed movie on tv you need remote for pushing volume up and down..so its rubbish to pass to family

i asked  Video deluxe 2026 Premium software to normalise and compress but its just not working as intended

anybody any idea know how i get a decent level for all audio recording on timeline

i am stuck again bigtime

i even moved out my files to that well know free audio program and tried to balance recording but still bad results

i ask the famouse a.i. program and it had me doing everything but the fix

so here i am

hope you can help

Brian😢

 

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browj2 wrote on 6/6/2026, 11:04 AM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian,

I think that yours should be the best question of the year!

Ever wonder what all of those audio type people are doing in films? Watch the credits for voice-over artists, recording engineer/soundman, cleaning/sound improvement specialist, mixing engineer, mastering engineer, and probably a few more. Well, for home video making, that's all you.

Where to start? How much time do you have?

Here is somewhat of an overview:

1. Equipment - good mic, audio interface. Recording environment - no outside noise, limited reverb from the room, and limited room noise - watch for noisy equipment, like fans.

2. Recording and Levels - adjust the recording level in Windows if necessary.

but my recording outputs are all different because i do over many days and i talk different and i am nearer or further from mike

You know the answer - find the sweet-spot, measure the distance mic to mouth, and try to repeat it, practice. Keep your mouth close to the mic, use foam on the mic and a pop filter (note to self, get a pop filter).

Before recording a new session, listen to previous recordings through headphones connected to the audio interface, mixed with live sound (your mic) and what comes from the computer. Adjust your voice to get it to sound as close to the previous session as you can. This way you can hear yourself.

Watch the levels on the meters. Keep out of the red zone. Try to keep your voice even.

Watch some videos on voice over to see how the experts do it. Important things like recording standing up (I don't), breathing exercises, throat clearing, drinking something or not, etc.

Look at the waveforms to see if you're getting a couple of very loud words per recording, but most audio is much lower. Try to avoid that. Look at your text. If there are words that you want to emphasize, doing so straight into the mic will ruin the rest of the audio or you could get distortion. The trick singers use (my wife) is to move the mic away from the mouth, in your case, you can move back a bit for louder words, or, as I try to do, turn your head slightly off centre of the mic.

I almost forgot, make sure that you're speaking into the proper part of the mic. Mine is on one side, not at the end.

Don't try to read too much in one shot. I can get 2 to 4 sentences out before making a mistake, so I limit each recording to about that. And I need to breathe.

3. Post-production

Normalize. I used to use the video editor (VPX) for recording narration, now I use SF Audio Cleaning Lab (ACL), one of the best or most useful Magix products no longer available. You have Music Editor 3 with Video Deluxe that is an older stripped down version of ACL that you can use for levelling out audio as shown below.

I normalize in ACL to 90%, which leaves the peak sound at almost 1db below maximum (0 db is maximum). In VDL, you can only normalize to 100% and then lower the middle handle of the audio by 1 db.

Look at the waveform in the image below. You can see a peak at the beginning - a loud sound - and another one further along.

What I do is go through each recording and reduce the peaks using the volume curve as shown below. You can do the same in VDL. The difference is that in ACL, the waveform changes as a point is lowered or raised, and I can see by how much.

Reducing the peaks allows for increasing the overall volume.

Here is what you would do in VDL, I'm using VPX.

Normalizing problems: if one recording has one very loud sound and the other doesn't, but the rest is all of similar loudness, then each recording will get a different level after normalizing. The first one may be raised by 1db, the other by 6db. This is probably part of the cause of your uneven levels. You need to find an optimal level and then use that for adjusting all recordings, but only after reducing peaks using keyframes to avoid clipping.

How to avoid clipping? You need something that shows you actual levels and where problems are. Download and install the free version of YouLean Loudness Meter and learn to use it. You add it as an effect in the mixer, for the narration track FX, and for the master track FX.

Here is a good introduction to YouLean:

When you play back, it will display levels, show you where peaks are, and the true peak value, which you need to keep below -1.0 db to avoid clipping. With that, you can see which peaks need to be reduced and if you can increase the overall volume of the clip.

DeNoise: Now is where I do some cleaning, usually just denoising to reduce that background noise.

Compression: Now I add in compression to make the narration more even. Ratio 2:1 or up to 3:1. Beyond that, it starts to sound like radio voice, no nuance. You can use the compressor in VDL for the track, not the one in cleaning for an object.

Careful here, as some compressors do not make up the gain. A compressor compresses the audio between the peak down to the threshold. This reduces the volume of the louder parts, bringing them closer to softer parts. So you may have to increase the volume to raise the overall level. However, raising the level, also raises the level of background noise, so monitor that as well.

Levelling between objects: You still may have to do some levelling as some recordings may still sound louder than others. Here you use your ears and YouLean Loudness Meter on the master track. You can play back each clip, note the maximum and other parameters, and adjust the volume of the clip using the centre handle of the clip on the timeline.

Note that the YouLean LM is pre-fader, so the volume that it hears is what is before the track fader or master track mixer fader. Once you have everything balanced out, you may want to reduce the master track fader so that nothing exceeds -1.0db, or as many users do, adjust the fader so that the maximum sound is at -3.0 db.

VoiceLeveler: There are some plugins out there that do voice levelling, like ERA6 VoiceLeveler from Accusonus. It's free somewhere on the internet, as part of a free kit of audio plugins. I haven't used any of these.

Plosive Remover: I have trouble with plosives - p's and b's - so sometimes I apply the Accusonus PlosiveRemover.

It all takes work, but a good video with bad sound will be bad. A mediocre video with good sound will be better.

I didn't mention EQ, which is another thing that you can do to improve your narration, even if it's just removing the low end, 0-50 Hz with a low pass filter and a de-esser preset. Example below:

If you have any annoying nasal sounds, you can find and remove them with a good equalizer, like the one above. There are plenty of tutorials about how to do this on YouTube.

I also didn't mention fixing other audio, like that with video clips, or adding music and sound effects, and mixing it all together so that it sounds good. That adds to the complexity.

There is more.

John CB

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browj2 wrote on 6/6/2026, 12:43 PM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian,

Further thoughts as I think of them, and getting them down before I forget. At my age...

I didn't mention:

  • Using the Audio effects, General under Effects in VDL for the volume curve and for AUX1 and AUX2 for sending audio of an object to the FX strip in the Mixer for more object specific effects;
  • LUFS - Loudness Units Full Scale - which is a measure of perceived loudness. You'll see this in YouLean. For YouTube, max. is -14 LUFS and no clipping. Designed to avoid adjusting the TV volume all of the time and more;
  • Keep most parts of audio improvement, adjustments, mixing, mastering till the end of editing when nothing on the timeline is likely to move. Ducking is one thing to do at the very end;
  • Using the built-in Music Editor 3 as your external audio editor to your advantage. Best is still Magix Audio Cleaning Lab. I have Samplitude Pro X Suite which has an audio editing component that opens from VDL/VPX as the external audio editor, but you need a doctorate just to find how to get the volume curve, and putting points on the curve and raising and lowering them does not change the waveform display and thus, IMHO, is next to useless at a high cost. ACL is a stripped down version of Samplitude Cleaning and Restoration Suite (audio editor) that works much better, is easier to use, and has better features for us video makers;
  • Mixdown of audio, separately, depending on what you need to work on externally. I did tutorials on ways to do mixdown;
  • Spectral Cleaning in Audio Cleaning Lab to get rid of specific noises, a click, squeak, door creak or slam, and other short annoying noises. Mostly for cleaning up audio from video or audio recorded in unfavourable conditions.

Don't ignore the quality of the rest of the audio in your video.

Accusonus ERA6 plugins are still available for free on Internet Archive. I suggest that everyone get this before it disappears unless you have better plugins already. Here is what you get and how it shows in VPX Mixer FX:

Melda plugins - there is a free bundle that you might find interesting. Download and install the manager then get the free MFreeMXBundle of 37 plugins.

Of interest are MLoudness Analyzer, similar to YouLean. The graph is not a good, but you can adjust the overall level to get to the target LUFS. Also, MCompressor, which shows the normal graph used for compression, unlike the one supplied by Magix in VDL.

I had better bookmark this thread or I'll forget for next time.

I hope that I haven't discouraged you.

John CB

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John C.B.

VideoPro X(17U); Video Deluxe 2026 Plus, Movie Studio 2025 Platinum; PhotoStory Deluxe 2026; Music Maker 2026 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 11 Pro 24H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB, 12TB, 14TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

YouTube Channel: @JCBrownVideos

johnebaker wrote on 6/6/2026, 2:35 PM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian

How long a narration are you wanting to do?

My method, for when I do add a voice-over (rare) is to complete the video editing so I have the final result for the video part.

If I want a 'free wheeling' narration, I watch the video while recording using a microphone plugged into a Digital Voice Recorder. The audio file is then imported from the DVR to the PC and imported into the project and adjusted as necessary.

For a structured narration I read from a script, record in one session with the DVR, import the audio file into the project and cut it up and adjust to fit the video an example of this method is in this tutorial, which was recorded in our summerhouse, thick wood walls, well insulated roof and double glazed windows, using the DVR.

HTH

John EB

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spuddy13 wrote on 6/7/2026, 3:41 PM

Both Johns, again thankyou for the time you guys put in to help us out here 👏

this production starts to get to me if i have been at it to long

I looked at (browj2) detailed advice and i have noted stuff i will investigate over time

but will download youlean now to see it in action

i am using a lavalier mike with foam cover on bluetooth connection to pc and in there use default recorder

i am in a large kitchen diner 5mx5m plasterboard...not ideal

no pop filter yet

i rehearse my speaking then when i start recording i go kinda robotic and make many mistakes

i previewed my recording in magix software within video edit package and i was in the red with some and very

low on others..all over the place

music editor 3 starts up on my pc then i cannot find it anywhere to use it

i have normalised and compressed my files..even ran it through the maude a.i. it tweeked it then it sounded as if its in a biscuit tin

at the same time as i was trying to do it this way i was trying to digitise my voice like magix does

i got a good sample of my voice so i am going to do two things just to get this film complete

i now have voice clips of me talking in a.i. it as good or better than me speaking it all level and clear

so i will add these to my movie

then i will make another version and i will re record my voice all in a oner using a script so the levels are consistant..as suggested by johnebaker

its a 55 min video but the talking probably only adds upto 15 mins

i do not like my own voice in movies and i make to many mistakes and as i saw i talk kinda weird i am better using the a.i. option of me...its ok

 

i have printed both your list of suggestions and will investigate further

again really appreciated

Brian