miniDV files to blu-ray disc with menu, what suitable/best software ?

jfneuch wrote on 10/25/2016, 8:35 PM

Hello,

I am a bit confused between Magix movie Edit Pro and Magix Video Pro.

I have several PAL miniDV avi files. I would like to create 50GB blu-ray with them, with minimum re-encoding and without reducing the quality. I prefer to keep the original resolution (720x576) if possible. Those blu-ray will be made for blu-ray player.

I do not need to edit the miniDV files, just to join some together into one chapter. My PC cannot work more than 16 hours/day, it is too nosy during the night. So I would need to convert every chapter from the blu-ray menu into a format that blu-ray accept.  That will last few days. Then I would burn those converted files to the blu-ray disc. So I need the Smart rendering function in order to avoid re-encoding a second time while bunring the BR.

What is the best software which can do that ?

Thank you for helping me

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johnebaker wrote on 10/26/2016, 3:13 AM

Hi

Both Movie Edit Pro (MEP) and Video Pro X (VPX) will do what you want however:-

. . . . I would like to create 50GB blu-ray . . . .

Does your BD burner support dual layer 50GB BD discs?

Is there a reason why you need 50GB BD?  A full 50GB BD disc is roughly equivalent to approx 4 hrs of video at Full HD (1920*1080) resolution and approx 9 hrs at SD resolution and the standard bitrate settings.

. . . . with minimum re-encoding and without reducing the quality. I prefer to keep the original resolution (720x576) if possible . . . .

The original resolution (SD) can be maintained however quality will be reduced if you intend to view on HD TV or Full HD monitors or other HD equipment. Re-encoding may occur depending on the codec used in the avi files - avi is a container file format not a specific video codec.

. . . . to join some together into one chapter. . . . So I would need to convert every chapter from the blu-ray menu into a format that blu-ray accept. . . .

There is some confusion over your terminology - I presume you mean join all the AVI's together into 1 movie with or without chapters?  Both MEP and VPX create the BD menu for you, and if you have added chapter markers to the timeline then chapter menus are also created.

. . . . My PC cannot work more than 16 hours/day . . . .

Once you start the burn process your PC will have to run as long as it takes to render the movie, create all the necessary support files and burn the disc. 

What is your computer specification? - See this post for more info on what is needed.

AFAIK you cannot do this piece meal without using a 3rd party software to assemble the disc contents and burn to an image or disc - the ones I have used require the video to be in one large file.

. . . . So I need the Smart rendering function in order to avoid re-encoding a second time while bunring the BR . . .

Smart rendering is available in both MEP and VPX, however it is only used then the source file and destination file formats and resolution are the same and no editting or effects have been applied to the video. From expereince you are most likely going to have to apply overall sharpening to the movie otherwise the image will appear soft.

There are trial versions of MEP and VPX which you can use for 30 days, however they are limited in functionality ie you can export only 3 mins of video, not all codecs are available and other functions may not be available.

If you do decide to get MEP get the Plus or Premium version.

HTH

John EB

 

 

 

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yvon-robert wrote on 10/26/2016, 9:59 AM

Hi,

May be a lot a work for nothing? Use a USB key to copy all your avi files on it is a good way to save and protect your original files. Also you can use any Web program to create a website on your key, using key on a computer you can just click the index file and this start the presentation also you can link your computer to a large TV screen using a HDMI cable or a the screen cable coming with your computer monitor.

Regards,

YR

jfneuch wrote on 10/26/2016, 2:42 PM

Hi Johnebaker, Thank you very much for your help and for the time you took to answer me.

Yes my burner support 50GB. I prefer 50GB BR because  I have several tens hours of movie. I just wanted to reduce the size of the BR cupboard needed.

About the reduced quality, I do not have anymore CRT TV. How (best codec or some other trick) can I watch those miniDV files on a HD TV without detoriate to much the quality.

Yes, I do not really want to make chapter, just to join some little moivies into 1 choice in the BR menu.

About my pc which does't work during the night, I want to split the job so that the last indivisible job will last less than 16hours. I want to convert all my files into the right codec and format first. Then I will author the BR and burn it. Between the authoring and the burn, I do not want that the software re-encode once more all the files. Into which best codec and formats should be converted the files and what is the authoring software which will not re-encode those files before burning them to a SD blu-ray disc?

Thank you for your help

Regards

Jean

jfneuch wrote on 10/26/2016, 2:50 PM

Hi Yvon-Robert, Thank you very much to answer my post and helping me.

That huge job is for someone who is allergic PC...I already try to put a small pc with Windows explorer, but it is still too complicate to handle...

By the way, I am interested in your idee. Could you please tell me where can I find some exemple or how to start, or tutorials to make that kind of presentation ?

Regards

Jean

yvon-robert wrote on 10/26/2016, 3:25 PM

Hi,

Main advantage you can view on pc or TV, a USB act exactly like an harddisk you need to copy file on the key. For  TV you need the format file that TV use and convert the original file you have. A good converter is Movavi because after testing the file compativity you can batch process and made same quality as the original. On the web you can find alot of converter and test it.

Check the TV for an USB port and file format that you can view on the TV.

Download Movavi and convert one file to test.

Regards,

YR

jfneuch wrote on 10/27/2016, 4:55 AM

Hi Johnebaker, You said:

The original resolution (SD) can be maintained , as I wanted to convert miniDV 720x576 into blu-ray. I have instal the trial version Magix video deluxe, but when wanted to burn the blu-ray in H.264, I can only choose pressetting with  higher resolution.  When I started the project, I choosed the project PAL 4:3 720x576. How can I avoid upscaling ? Can Magix movie edit Pro do it ? Thanks

johnebaker wrote on 10/27/2016, 2:51 PM

Hi

. . . . I have instal the trial version . . . .

The trial version has restricted functionality and does not have all the available burn options due to activation and  licensing requirements.  The maximum length of video that can be burned or exported is 3 mins .

Unfortunately I am currently running on my laptop which has 1280*720 HD as the lowest resolution setting (???).

On my PC I had settings available for 720*576 (SD) available and I am not in a position to check it.

Can anyone else confirm if they have a 720*576 (SD) setting for Blu-ray please?

. . . . . How can I avoid upscaling ? . . . .

As you are going to playing the disc on a BD player to HD TV then you are going to get upcscaling by default using the player or TV's upscaling firmware - depending on the quality of the upscaling firmware this can range from very good to very bad.

I would recommend you upscale in MEP to 1280 * 720 in MEP for consistency, and apply weak sharpening - Effects, Movie effect settings (from the menu bar) Sharpness tab and select Sharpen image weak.

I suspect from what you have said you need to create a multi movie disc, with selectable movies, rather then a single 10hr long disc, in which case follow this tutorial however in step 2 export as AVCHD transport stream 1920/1080 and then import these into the multi movie project with 1920*1080 settings and burn the whole project to BD at 1920*1080.

I would not try using 1280*720 because there is not a great difference in file sizes and, if you did, you are still upscaling in the BD player/TV and the double upscaling may be unpredictable.

HTH

John EB

 

 

 

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browj2 wrote on 10/28/2016, 11:46 AM

Hi,

I tried from my desktop computer, MEP 2016 Premium and VPX and could not find anyway to burn SD to a BD. The lowest was as John EB indicated, 1280x720. I tried the DVD format but put a BD into the burner. It did not like that.

Further to what Yvon-Robert mentioned, if you are able to connect your (Smart) TV to your computer using either a LAN cable or WiFi, then you should be able to run your videos straight from the computer. You can buy a separate HD just for your compiled files. Use MEP to create mp4 files of the clips that you want, and then run them. No need for burning. A program like CyberLink PowerDVD16 plus ChromeCast may also be a good option.

I like the suggestion by Yvon-Robert to use a USB stick and an HTML file as a pretty front end. I haven't tried it, but intend to. The video files would be simply the mp4 or wmv files that you exported from MEP.

You don't even need the html file. Just copy some mp4 or wmv files onto the USB memory stick, plug it into the USB port on your TV (most TV's today have USB ports), switch the input to the USB port and your files will appear. Then run. This is the simplest method that there is.

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jfneuch wrote on 10/28/2016, 3:02 PM

Thank you very much to all fo you who helped me.

Kind Regards

Jean