MOV from iPhone imports in 'vertical' aspect

terrypin wrote on 5/25/2019, 4:37 AM

I'm puzzled why my iPhone 6S+ records movies like this example in vertical mode.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w6xbtzet7f5wvne/20190525-010703-Cat.mov?raw=1

The iPhone app that recorded it (Motion Sensor), is presumably the root cause, because MediaInfo shows that it is indeed 1080x1920.

Extract from MediaInfo
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 59 s 863 ms
Bit rate                                 : 5 570 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 080 pixels
Height                                   : 1 920 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 0.563
Rotation                                 : 270°

Yet all the other video players I've tried (WMP, MPC-HC, VLC, PotPlayer, etc) are smart enough to play it correctly in landscape mode. But not MEPP 2016. After a -90 rotation it then needs resizing to fill the screen, two unwanted extra steps.

How does it appear when imported in other users' versions of MEPP please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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johnebaker wrote on 5/25/2019, 8:17 AM

@terrypin

Hi Terry

. . . . How does it appear when imported in other users' versions of MEPP please . . . .

Vertical as you have found.

IIRC from previous topics on this issue, the conclusion was MEP ignores the rotation flag in the video file metadata.

HTH

John EB

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browj2 wrote on 5/25/2019, 8:53 AM

Hi Terry,

I'd blame it on the cat.

Since it was shot with the iPhone in landscape, then the last line Media Info showing a rotation of 270 would put it vertically, no?

I opened it in VPX and MEP2019 and it came in vertically. I flipped it 90 counterclockwise and didn't have to resize the image; it filled the screen.

It probably has something to do with compensating for all of those iPhone users who film in portrait mode. The program or iPhone couldn't believe that someone would actually film in landscape mode.

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terrypin wrote on 5/25/2019, 10:44 AM

Thanks both.

John EB: I’m sure you’re right about the rotation flag and I now recall that earlier discussion. Shame Magix still haven’t got around to a presumably trivial bit of coding like the other video player developers.

Did it automatically resize after the manual rotation, as in John CB’s case?

John CB: I blame the few spoons of canned red salmon, the only ‘bait’ I had at hand in my quest - for a fox not a cat!

 

Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)

johnebaker wrote on 5/25/2019, 10:58 AM

@terrypin

Hi Terry

. . . . Did it automatically resize after the manual rotation, as in John CB’s case . . . .

No, it centred itself with a resolution of width of 1080, height of 608. Checked this several times.

. . . . I blame the few spoons of canned red salmon . . . .

Terry you have some very spoiled foxes, and cat, was it 'the best' salmon?

John EB

 

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

wongck wrote on 5/26/2019, 12:04 AM

the only ‘bait’ I had at hand in my quest - for a fox not a cat!

 

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terrypin wrote on 5/26/2019, 3:03 AM

@wongck

Thanks, interesting video. But my wife doesn’t even know about the tinned salmon so I’ll have to draw the line at stringing up a dead rabbit!😊 

 

Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)