Moving presets from SF11 to SF12

Paul-Fegan wrote on 1/16/2019, 4:49 AM

SoundForge 12 - PC - Windows 7 64 bit
Hi all, I have recently started using SF12, but I have a ton of presets in SF11 that I still need and I don't want to have to set them up in SF 12 all over again. I see that Preset Manager isn't available anymore and there's no replacement, so can someone tell me how to copy presets from one version to another? Many thanks.


rraud wrote on 1/16/2019, 10:29 AM

I don't know if Magix has PM available, but you can download it from Software Informer. Sony Preset Manager 2.0k is an x86 app and a 12.7MB download.

Vegasaur also has a preset manager but I have not tried it and do not know if it works with SF

Paul-Fegan wrote on 1/17/2019, 6:21 AM

Thanks, rraud. The problem is, I already have Preset Manager in 11, so I can package up my presets, but I've no way to integrate them into 12 as it doesn't a Preset Manager with which to import them.

Maybe I could locate the presets in my SF11 folders and copy them to the SF12 folders, but I don't know how this is structured and would hate to mess it up and have things half-working. I might just have to raise a support ticket.

Thanks for your help. I'm pretty sure you replied to some of my posts on SF10 a decade ago, so I hope you're getting paid for all your time and help. :-) Cheers.

rraud wrote on 1/17/2019, 10:13 AM

The FX chains for Pro 12 in the "C:\Users\Rick\AppData\Roaming\MAGIX\FX Packages" sub-folders. In SF Pro 10 they are in C:\Users\Rick\AppData\Roaming\Sony\FX Packages' sub-folders. Based on that they should be easy to find in Pro11, However, I don't know if they will work if copy>pasted... probably not if the paths are not exactly the same on both PCs. Maybe just write down the FX parameters and re-enter them.. a real pain for sure. It is unfortunate there is not an easy way to export/import. Note: normally the User>AppData folder is hidden, so to access it you have to change view Hidden items option.

The individual VST FX presets <.fxp> are sometimes in the VST folders along with the <.dll> files, but may also hidden as system files. The DX FX presets may be in the registry... but they would be very difficult to find. I would steer clear of that.

FWIW, As well, the 'custom keyboard' and 'layout' files are in the 'username' AppData folder. for instance, here is the path for SF Pro 10 "C:\Users\Rick\AppData\Roaming\Sony\Sound Forge Pro\10.0" . In SF Pro 12: "C:\Users\Rick\AppData\Roaming\MAGIX\Sound Forge Pro\12.1"

"I'm pretty sure you replied to some of my posts on SF10 a decade ago, so I hope you're getting paid for all your time and help. :-)"

- I probably did, been on the SF forum since 2001 and a SF user since ver 3. I am not an employee of Magix (nor was I for Sonic Foundry or SCS). This is a user forum, so do not even get beer money. Since I became a moderator, Magix offers me other 'perks' though. Thank-you Magix.

Paul-Fegan wrote on 1/17/2019, 11:05 AM

Wow, thanks a million for all the details, Rick(?). It seems my system is a little different from yours, though, as I don't have an "FX Packages" folder in my C:\Users\PF\AppData\Roaming\MAGIX folder. Could this be because I installed the program to my G drive? Also, I don't have an FX Packages folder in my old SF 11 folder (C:\Users\PF\AppData\Roaming\Sony\Sound Forge Pro\11.0); I have just one file: the other one you mentioned later in your reply — keyboard.ini.

Ironically, keyboard.ini is the one file I don't need as I had only assigned one user hotkey in SF 11 and that was for mute. So it was easy to set this up again manually in SF 12 and I'd already done it.

I have a bigger problem with VST settings as SF 11 was 32 bit and SF 12 is 64 bit. So I installed 64 bit versions of my Izotope plugins and now my old Izotope presets (.fxp) won't load as .vstpreset format is required.

This is turning out to be a preset nightmare for me and it's honestly tempting to just keep using SF 11. I've so many effects and file format presets to contend with, not to mention the fiasco with the Izotope 64 bit presets.

I really appreciate all the info you've supplied, you've been very helpful, but I'm going to have to have a think about this one. Thanks a mill.

rraud wrote on 1/17/2019, 12:14 PM

"Could this be because I installed the program to my G drive?" -
- Could be ..not sure though.

- I'll check out the Pro 11 folders and such, which is on my desktop PC at home.

I still use Pro 10 a lot since SCS forked up the UI in the record and plug-in chainer when Pro11 was released (I was a beta tester on Pro 11 but SCS did not listen to me or the other testers opinions). Also, some of the plug-in's window sizes are out of whack on 11 &12, Due to my aging eyesight, I run my high res monitor at 1080p with a higher than recommended DPI.,, but I can usually live with that since I otherwise like Pro12. Experimenting with different compatibility settings helped some.
Cheers, Rick

Paul-Fegan wrote on 1/18/2019, 9:34 AM

I still have Pro 10 and 11 installed at home. I did this because I wanted to have 11 running smoothly before I ditched 10, but I never really got around to uninstalling it. I've done the same with 12 and I really want to use it, but just deterred by a combination of my workload and not wanting to set up every preset again. However, after I replied to you yesterday, I decided I'd scratch the surface and start setting up some of the presets I need immediately. I might just have to stop sulking and get on with it if I want to make the best use of 12, but they really need to sort out a Preset Manager as I'll be very reluctant to go through this again for future versions.

By the way, I never really used the plug-in chainer until last year, but it was cut short when I realised it couldn't handle Normalize. I record mostly VO audio and I use normalize a lot so I couldn't automate my most-commonly-used tasks into a useful chain. Do you know of any way around this? Seems strange that Normalize wouldn't be available in Plugin Chainer.

Thanks a mill, Rick. You certainly have quite the history with Sound Forge and we're lucky to have your expert advice to hand. I've been using it since Sonic Foundry's SF 4.5, through 5, then I think a very buggy 7 and then 10 Pro, 11 Pro and now 12. I'm there's tons of stuff I don't know about the program, but it's like another limb to me. I wouldn't edit with anything else.

Teles wrote on 1/19/2019, 8:47 PM

SF Pro is like an old friend but since I don't use it for batch conversions anymore (Myriad on the Max does entire directory trees at once and more functions), the remaining essential feature for me is the measures and beats ruler. If RX7 ever gets BPM ruler display I might not use SF Pro again.

Paul-Fegan wrote on 1/21/2019, 6:49 AM

Funny you should mention directory trees; I did some usability testing for Magix and one of the things I mentioned was that in Batch Converter, it doesn't look beyond one level when you drop a folder in for conversion. So I'm hoping they sort this out in a future version. Other than that, I'm very happy with batch converter.

I never looked for a BPM ruler in RX (I have RX 6) but I just checked now and I see what you mean: it has a few options, but not BPM. Have you asked Izotope if they'll include it? I have found both their Tech Support and Facebook page (DM) to be very responsive.