No "Used Clip" indicator in Move Edit Pro Premium

hatfieldphoto wrote on 11/7/2017, 4:50 AM

I've just noticed that there is no indication in the media pool of clips that have actually been used. I've been working out of two folders from two cameras. Now about three out of a hundred clips used from one folder have a red dot on the thumbnail top left - does this indicate a used clip? If so why are none of the others so-marked? It's making combining footage from two sources very difficult. Any help appreciated.

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emmrecs wrote on 11/7/2017, 5:16 AM

Hi.

Yes the red dot is the indicator that a clip is being used on the timeline. I have no idea why some you are using apparently do not have that dot.

Perhaps try saving your project, closing and re-opening the program? Does this have any effect on your problem? If not, I really have no idea!

Jeff

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hatfieldphoto wrote on 11/7/2017, 6:30 AM

Thanks Jeff. I've just discovered the following -  I copied the files into the program (following the prompt at the start of a new project which says there might be problems if you DON'T do this). The copied files have the red dots on utilised clips but the original file clips when viewing in the original folders do not (except for the occasional one as mentioned).

Just out of interest I wonder if you or someone else knows if is it essential to copy files into the program at the project start, especially if one does not move original folder(s) which would lose the link? Thanks again! Phil

 

emmrecs wrote on 11/7/2017, 6:47 AM

Hi Phil.

Where were these files stored before you copied them to your hard drive? In my experience, the app suggests you copy them if it senses they are currently on any sort of removable media (e.g. a memory card/USB stick) or still on the camera (e.g.memory card or internal hard drive). In that situation, once copying to local hard drive is complete, I always disconnect/remove the original storage medium so the computer is working only with the coped files.

As a matter of normal practice I always copy the mts files from my video camera's hdd to a dedicated folder on a dedicated USB3 external drive and then disconnect the camera from the computer before I begin any editing. That way, all the app sees is the files on that external drive. I suspect, in your case, the app is correctly "red-dotting" the copied files (because that is the source it is using) leading to the confusion you are seeing with the original versions.

However, if your files are already on your hard drive before you begin to edit there is absolutely no reason why MEP should suggest you copy them in order to work on them!

HTH

Jeff

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hatfieldphoto wrote on 11/7/2017, 7:05 AM

Hi Jeff, the files were in folders on my main D drive. I suspected there was no real need to copy them for a second time into the program as long as they remained in the same location but I was playing safe. I guess that's the explanation. Many thanks for your help! Kind regards, Phil.

johnebaker wrote on 11/7/2017, 9:03 AM

Hi

There is no need to copy the files so long as they are on an internal hard drive and they remain in the same location - in the image below mine are on the W: drive.

I have a similar approach to project videos using the folder structure shown below, the red asterisked is the root folder for all projects and the blue asterisked folder is an example of one of the root folders for an individual project with the subfolders holding all the resources eg video, images, audio etc sorted by type/source and other miscellaneous folders I use.

The folder called Blank,you can see is an empty master folder structure I use . To create a new project folder, I copy and paste the Blank one, rename it to the project name then add all the resources into the appropriate sub folders.

I also backup the projects using the same structure to external hard drive(s), so if I need to restore one again everything is in the correct location.

HTH

John EB

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browj2 wrote on 11/7/2017, 10:20 AM

Hi,

@hatfieldphoto

I'm not sure what you mean by copying into the program. You can copy onto a hard disk, but copy into the program? The program uses the file that is on the hard disk; it is not "in" the program. If you import the file onto the timeline, it is still not "in" the program but is used by the program; it needs to always be in the same place on your hard drive. If you now delete the file from the hard drive or move it, then reopen the program and project, it will not find the file.

Can you give us a screen shot of the message that you are getting about copying files into the program? And also a screen shot of MEP with the import tab open to the location of where you are reading the files?

As Jeff mentioned, I get a message about copying files onto my hard drive, not into the program, if I try to use files that are on a USB memory stick.

John CB

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hatfieldphoto wrote on 11/7/2017, 11:57 AM

What I meant was copying into the Magix folder which was created by the program- sorry if my language is not technically correct, I am part of a certain age group not used to computers combined with a daily loss of brain cells!

 

browj2 wrote on 11/7/2017, 1:24 PM

@hatfieldphoto

Ok, I understand. What was the question again? Senior's moment.

As you saw from what John EB showed, he, and I guess many of us, do not keep our video and photo files on the same hard drive as the program, meaning not on drive C. I actually have My documents going to drive B (how that drive became B, I don't know), so the folders created by Magix are under:

B:\Documents\MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Plus

since that is the latest version of MEP that I have installed. I then create a subfolder called Projects and add this as the projects folder under Program settings (shortcut Y).

My projects are all saved under B:\Documents\MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Plus\Projects but usually under subfolders that I use to group by subject, like Vacations, Christmases, Travel, Family, Tests, Tutorials, etc.

All of my videos and photos are kept elsewhere. Unlike John EB, I keep my videos under a folder for videos and another for photos, with subfolders by date, to which I append a subject. I keep everything on my hard drives, with a double backup - to another drive and also on Bluray data disks.

In MEP, under the Import tab, I create links to the main folders and then to subfolders for whatever I happen to be working on. Do you know how to do this? It is very convenient.

So, all raw video and photo files (and music and audio) on are hard drives, not under the folder created by Magix. Although one could put them there in subfolders, there is no advantage to this.

John CB

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RogerGunkel wrote on 11/7/2017, 2:20 PM

I try to keep things a simple as possible, so taking one of our typical weddings, we would usually have 3 cameras and 2 sound recorders. Once recorded, in the editing room we would create a new folder with the client's name on an external hard drive that we use to download all new recordings to. Each camera will have a separate folder within the client folder as will the audio recorders so we instantly know which is which e.g. Claire's Lumix, Roger's Lumix, B Cam, Audio. Files from the camera and audio recorder cards are downloaded directly to those folders and the cards are stored until the project is finished. The downloaded folders are then copied directly to the editing PC hard drive into the Desktop Folder 'Video Editing', from where they are accessed by VPX to edit from, leaving the external drive and cards as a backup. The attached video should explain, going from the desktop 'Video editing' folder then showing loading a blank project in VPX, then accessing the files directly from the media pool window, which is reading them from the desktop folder.

Hope that helps,

Roger

johnebaker wrote on 11/7/2017, 4:17 PM

Hi Roger

A heads up - if you have to use System Restore to reset Windows to a prior restore point then any files and folders added, after the restore point reverted to, will be lost - the Desktop is not protected from a System restore unlike the Documents and Library folders.

Cheers

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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RogerGunkel wrote on 11/7/2017, 5:29 PM

Hi John,

I do realise that but didn't want to put too much extra info in my reply for hatfieldphoto. Perhaps I should have added that for security, completed and work in progress folders also get stored on another external drive in case of a failure, so my video editing folder is duplicated on that once every few days.

Having said that, I had to restore to a previous point on my older system a number of times but never lost any desktop files, it was only updates to programmes that got lost. Perhaps I was just lucky?

Roger