@CubeAce

Correct Ray, and with the current backup system if a crash occurs you only get the ...BAK.MV_s that were created the last time you manually backed up; any new ones post manual backup are deleted.

Check it out. Create a new project and name it, for convenience set the autosaves to 1 minute and let the program idle for a few of minutes.

Meanwhile open Windows Explorer and navigate to your Magix folder and find the ...BAK.MV_s for the project you've just created. When you have a couple of backups created, close MS without saving (to simulate a crash} and then try and find your backups.

AndyW

@me_again

Hi Andy.

That is the behaviour I have always experienced. I have got into the habit of just manually pressing save project whenever I finish a particular task. I don't like the auto save as it sometimes make my mouse function to freeze.

It has behaved like that on my machine since the introduction of the Infusion Engine.

Ray.

@me_again, @CubeAce

Hi Andy, Ray

. . . . ...BAK.MV_s that were created the last time you manually backed up; any new ones post manual backup are deleted . . . .

This is not what I am seeing as I previously commented here.

. . . . from the early days of Movie Edit Pro, when there was a crash a popup would offer the chance to recover or cancel the project that crashed. That useful function disappeared a few incarnations ago. . . .

The feature is still there, the pop will only appear when the BAK file is newer than the MVP, ie the project was saved, left for a short period of time to allow an auto backup to occur then the project is closed without saving - see clip below.

The 'Auto save' and 'Automatic project backup' are operating differently depending on the save status of the project you are working on and actions taken when closing the program or starting a new project.

In normal operation :

1. Project never saved to MVP

• The Autosave.MV_ file will be updated at a timed interval while editing, no _BAK files are created.
   
• Closing the project without saving - the Autosave.MV_ file is not deleted and will contain the last saved status of the timeline .

2. Project saved

• The Auto project backups, ie _BAK0.MV_ are created in a cycling the number 0 to 9 and are remain after closing the project, irrespective of whether you do a final save or not.
  
  The Autosave.MV_ file will only contain the timeline contents, if any, at the first project save, after that it is ignored

After a crash:

1. Project never saved to MVP

• After restart the Autosave.MV_ file can be loaded providing you do not add anything to the timeline, there are no _BAK0.MV_ files
   
• Add an image/video/audio object to the timeline immediately overwrites the Autosave.MV_ file with the new timeline contents

2. Project saved

• The _BAK0.MV_ files will exist if the crash occurs after at least one has been saved automatically. If the last BAK file is time stamped later than the project was manually saved, then you get the correct behaviour as i showed above.

HTH

John EB

The whole point of my starting this thread is that I'm not getting backups on some projects. Basically, the replies have been to say that I must be getting backups and this is how to find them.

I still don't get regular backups to certain projects and I've not had a crash popup for many a moon even though I've had crashes, but I concede. I am obviously mistaken.

And so, until the time is right, I use the famous last words of Winston Churchill - "I'm bored with it all"

AndyW

Hi Andy

One thing I have not tested is if the auto backup timer gets reset every time you save manually. Which, if done regularly at intervals less than the time interval between the auto backups, may account why there are no _BAK0.MV_ files.

Have not heard that Churchill comment - the only one I knew of was 'Terminological inexactitude'

John EB

Another thought after a coffee today (Andy 😉) and I think I've brought this up before: in the last few versions, when I fire up MMS and open a project, I sometimes get a message saying a backup exists, do you want to open it or the project itself. I very rarely close a project without saving it, so I assume a backup is being made after my last manual save and Magix thinks that is more recent than the last time I saved (which I suppose, technically, it is), even if I've done nothing to the project.

The other annoying saving thing which I think is relatively new is having to save after an export.

@AAProds

Hi Al

. . . . sometimes get a message saying a backup exists, do you want to open it or the project itself . . . .

See the video here.

John EB