Please format help!!

Matthew-Bargren wrote on 5/27/2020, 4:10 PM

Help guys please!!! I can make moves with this program taking the mini SD card from drone to my surface pro 7 and using magix. But then what's the best way to watch on my Oled LG tv? I really wanted to save to my new sandisk extreme 3.1 usb. But no matter what format I save it to on my SanDisk using the Magix my LG tv will not format and will not play it back. Please help guys i have been stuck all day. Should I not be using a SanDisk to Tv and maybe Surface pro to tv???

Thanks so so much for you time.

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CubeAce wrote on 5/27/2020, 4:27 PM

@Matthew-Bargren

Hi Matthew.

First you look up your TVs manual and see what video formats it will accept. Not all TVs accept the same file formats or frame speeds. You also have to look up what types of input it will accept. My TVs for instance won't accept a card reader. If you don't have a manual you can normally look these things up on the manufacturers websites.

Ray.

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Matthew-Bargren wrote on 5/27/2020, 4:51 PM

Thanks so much is a sandisk the way most people do it? I don't want to lost the 4k quality.

 

CubeAce wrote on 5/27/2020, 5:22 PM

@Matthew-Bargren

Hi Matthew.

First you look up your TVs manual and see what video formats it will accept. Not all TVs accept the same file formats or frame speeds. You also have to look up what types of input it will accept. My TVs for instance won't accept a card reader. If you don't have a manual you can normally look these things up on the manufacturers websites.

[Edit] I have no idea why my comment has been repeated.

I did not type this a second time but all the info you need should be in the TVs manual.

Ray.

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AAProds wrote on 5/28/2020, 1:14 AM

@Matthew-Bargren Export your movie as an MP4 (or HEVC) to your USB thingee and then plug it into your TV. It'll work. My LG smart TV (non-OLED) plays every shape and size MP4 I throw at it, plus MPEGs and M2TS.

CubeAce wrote on 5/28/2020, 1:28 AM

@AAProds

We have a Sony set that only accepts mov. files and Matthew is trying to use an SD card not a USB memory stick.

Ray.

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AAProds wrote on 5/28/2020, 2:12 AM

@CubeAce Ray, gotcha, but Matt must be able to insert his SD card into his TV (possibly via a USB card reader) because he's saying it won't play.

 

CubeAce wrote on 5/28/2020, 2:29 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

I swear the first time I read this thread Matthew didn't state what Sandisk device was being used but on re-reading it now it seems I either misread the post (possible) or it has been altered. Either way it seems to be a USB 3.1 stick, which if the TV supports it should work. Again, it comes down to what inputs the TV has.

A quick search produced this with the first hit.

LG TV Codec support.

But that was one TV in their range. Disclaimers at bottom of that page.

It's just my experience not all TVs are equal and specs change all the time.

Ray.

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Matthew-Bargren wrote on 5/28/2020, 5:08 AM

First off thank you guys! I am using a USB stick not a sd card to plug in to tv. I will try the things suggested and let you guys know. ((The mini SD card is what my drone is saving the videos to and how I am loading it in my Surface pro 7))

Again thanks so much this is getting frustrating hahaha

CubeAce wrote on 5/28/2020, 6:34 AM

@Matthew-Bargren

Hi Matthew.

Just a thought.

If you have a Blu-ray player attached you could try the USB stick out on that. Ours copes with different file formats to our downstairs TV but allows the file to go from Blu-ray to TV at the file's resolution. Odd but useful.

Ray.

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me_again wrote on 5/28/2020, 10:28 AM

Greetings,

I have an LG TV that plays everything I plug into it.

I know that everyone on this forum poo poos the idea of using WMV format, but honestly I find it better than MP4 where my TV is concerned. Higher quality for comparitive bitrates. Sometimes I even export from MEP to 100% quality WMV and then convert to MP4 with Handbrake (actually Virtualdub which uses the Handbrake engine) or occasionally Xmedia Recode - both free. The results when converting old DVD's or VHS imports are much better (in my opinion) than anything MEP can export directly. Or do I need my specs changing?

A few years ago I emailed MEP support re MP4 settings and the reply I had admitted MEP has never really been happy with MP4's and it was their support that suggested WMV. Of course time has passed and MEP has improved. Or has it - apart from lots more 3rd party additions?

I am prepared to be castigised. Ooer.

AndyW

edit - Not sure if it's relevant but I don't have the Intel hardware acceleration just the obviously(😱) inferior Nvidia Cuda hardware acceleration. However I find about a 30% time decrease exporting to WMV than the equivalent MP4 and when I put it through Handbrake (Virtualdub) it flies so the over all time is about the same.

Another edit - Unless of course I'm exporting an unedited, like for like MP4.

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RogerGunkel wrote on 5/28/2020, 1:00 PM

Hi Matthew,

I have two different LG OLED tvs and have no problem playing Sandisk usb sticks on either of them. As has been said, export your project as an mp4 file and it should work fine.

I did notice this line in your original post ' LG tv will not format and will not play it back.' you are not trying to format the usb in your tv are you?

Roger

Scenestealer wrote on 5/28/2020, 7:35 PM

@Matthew-Bargren @CubeAce

Hi

That list of limitations on the LG codec link Ray posted looks a little formidable. We may be looking at a too high datarate that is causing problems as MEP 4k / UHD export templates are over 60Mbps and it LG says a maximum of 50Mbps for UHD. Mathew you could try lowering the bitrate in the advanced encoder settings for the MP4 export from MEP.

Ray - you suggestion of putting the USB stick into a connected Blu-ray player is a good one - my 2013 Panasonic HD Smart Plasma will not play MEP HD .MP4 files properly, I think due to the AAC audio codec- it stops playing the file after about 45 seconds - putting it in the Sony Blu-ray player it plays right thru. My guess is the Sony player has newer codecs that are compatible with MP4 with AAC.

Mathew, if you have no success, another trick I discovered is - if your PC is on the same wireless network as your TV and your TV shows up as a Device in "Network connected" in Windows 10 or 7 - by Rt. clicking on the exported file in Explorer then "Send to device" and selecting the device - "LG xxxx TV" it will probably play. Surprising as it seems the TV will play virtually any format that your PC will play as I think it uses the codecs on the PC to decode before streaming it to the TV. In my case it will play 4k / UHD, HEVC and other formats that the TV will not play via card, stick, or when accessing files on my PC over the network as a Media Server.

@AAProds

Some devices will not recognise card readers.

Peter

 

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CubeAce wrote on 5/29/2020, 3:54 AM

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

The page I found was only an example as I obviously don't know which set Matthew has and why I'm saying look for the TVs manual, although in this case it may not have helped as manuals don't often specify bit rate information on codecs, so a good catch on your part 👍.

In general TVs don't make good monitors even when the display in theory has better contrast and colour, but is a great way to view recordings back at a distance.

Another consideration here could be what types of USB ports does the TV have.

I think your other idea of streaming from PC is also a good one but in my case my PC is at least two rooms way from my nearest TV set. 😆🙃

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 5/29/2020, 6:56 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . I think your other idea of streaming from PC is also a good one but in my case my PC is at least two rooms way from my nearest TV set. . . . .

I think Peter is referring to streaming over WiFi - that is how I do to my Sony using Media Player.

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Matthew-Bargren wrote on 5/29/2020, 7:56 AM

Wow guys you are great! I am going to try and stream to the olled LG!! I tried and tried with the stick. I formatted it and got the vidios to show up on the tv!! I was pumped but still would not play them.

Thank you so much!!

CubeAce wrote on 5/29/2020, 8:34 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I was referring to the time delay on me pressing play on my PC and getting to the room with the TV 😆.

Apart from my phone, my wife's laptop, and our cars satnavs when they are on the driveway, everything else is hard wired. BT with fon is useless. 😉

@Matthew-Bargren

Hi Matthew.

That is the second time you have referred to formatting. So I will echo Roger's previous question.

What are you doing exactly?

Ray.

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Scenestealer wrote on 5/29/2020, 4:31 PM

@Matthew-Bargren

There are two ways I use to play content on my PC.

1. I press the Apps button on my Panasonic remote and select the Media Server Icon. This opens a menu where all the PC's (and my NAS) on my network show up, usually with the Windows Media Player symbol. I navigate on the sub menus for a device / PC to Folders > (My) Videos > where the file is located and push enter on the remote. This will play the file if its' format and codec is supported on the TV - otherwise it will say Format or Resolution is not supported.

2. For files that give an error - I go to the PC and Rt. click the File>Send to device>Panasonic XXXX push play and run to the lounge room. If it is a short video then I select repeat on the WMP window on the PC before strolling to the Lounge where I can pause and play with the TV remote and catch it in its' entirety the second time around.

Pretty cool though apart from that, in that I can view a 4K file on an only 1920x1080 TV which does not support the original file. I have no idea why or how this works because if the file was being decoded on the PC - the bandwith would be huge and Task manager shows less than the bitrate of the encoded file being utilised in the networking Tab.

One problem you may find with your 4K files is that they will however stutter unless you have an exceptionally strong WiFi setup. To overcome this I have a hard wired Gigabit ethernet cable to my TV.

Peter

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terrypin wrote on 5/30/2020, 2:24 AM

@Scenestealer @Matthew-Bargren

I use the same methods as Peter on my Panasonic (although I work in 1080).

@CubeAce

Ray: Note that #1 involves no risky dash 🙂

Terry

CubeAce wrote on 5/30/2020, 4:36 AM

@terrypin @me_again @johnebaker @Scenestealer @RogerGunkel

Hi Terry.

Nor does bringing up my YouTube channel on my TV 😆.

 

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 5/30/2020, 8:19 AM

@Scenestealer, @terrypin, @CubeAce

I use both of Peters methods over the WiFi, and have also used 'sneaker net' as well !

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