problem with image objects

CubeAce wrote on 5/16/2020, 8:41 PM

Hi Jacek.

I've never used them myself but I would imagine if you cut the clip at the point you wanted it inserted it would be where you want it. Remember all editing is non destructive so putting a cut into a clip doesn't actually cut it but puts a point into the timeline where you can effect a change.

Ray.

AAProds wrote on 5/16/2020, 9:49 PM

Make sure you have the desired mouse mode selected; to the left of the scissors on the toolbar below the Preview window. You'll want Single Object or Single Track mode. Then your main video track won't move as you drag the Bang.

Edit: I see what you mean. The mouse mode doesn't have any effect. That is not right.

You have to ungroup the Image Object from the video, then regroup it (not desirable, mind you). Be careful: you will also have to regroup the video and it's audio track.

To regroup, "lasso" the two parts: just drag the mouse over portions of each part (you don't need to cover the whole object/s), then click the group chain.

Jacek-Szczerba wrote on 5/17/2020, 11:33 AM

Hi there, thank u for help. Whatever i would do with grouping or ungrouping its still stick and moves all together. Yes CubeAce, that solving the problem, just split video in line u want to add objects. Anyway its little dissapointing that this program has such defect. It complicate the fun and mekes it not much intuitive. It should be one button like "unbind object" or anything.

Edit. No, something is wrong. Now also added text sticks to video and all moves together. Maybe i added/disabled some option? Nothing works independent all sticks together no matter what. Im sure it wasnt that way before. I have some monts break, maybe some update changed something?

Now no text can be moved manually, if once placed will stand there for ever. Assitionaly, when im deleting some text object, next to him change his position in line with no reason. No line is locked.

Did someone spoliled that program?

Thanks again, regards

johnebaker wrote on 5/17/2020, 12:51 PM

@Jacek-Szczerba

Hi

Reading your posts there appears to be some confusion over mouse modes and how objects, such as bang work.

The 'issues' you are having suggest that you are new to using Movie Edit Pro - is this correct and have you used other video editors before?

John EB
Forum Moderator

CubeAce wrote on 5/17/2020, 2:21 PM

@Jacek-Szczerba

Hi Jacek.

I understand that English is not your first language and I compliment you on trying so hard but I can't quite understand from your description what is now happening. Perhaps if you could take some screen grabs using the 'Print Screen' button on your keyboard and converting in 'Microsoft Piant' we may be able to understand more.

Sorry, this must be frustrating for you but the program is deliberately complex to accommodate the needs of various people's individual needs. Any large editor that does more than basic editing will be the same whether in audio, video, or still image editing.

What version of Movie Edit Pro did you begin with as I have not found that many changes in the few years I have been using it.

Ray.

browj2 wrote on 5/17/2020, 2:25 PM

@Jacek-Szczerba

Hi,

Sounds like you need to watch my tutorial on Basic Editing in MEP to understand moving things around, mouse modes, etc.:

John CB

Jacek-Szczerba wrote on 5/17/2020, 4:10 PM

Hi again, yes i must admit im not very clever one. It took me 2 days to work it out. The problem was in most simple thing - i change mouse mode for mode for all tracks and forget it, so all i touched was sticked together. Yep sorry for my circus performance, and i thank u that u really tried to help me, its not so often on forums. Noone just thought i can be a an idiot and change mouse mode ( edit :johnebaker thought of it but i didnt understand it that time)

But anyway i have last question. Some objects need to be untied from video by ungrouping. When its happen also original sound ungrupping from video file. Can it be avoided somehow? Its making little mess on lines.

PS. Im using Movie edit pro plus since 2016, now i have 2018 version.

Thank u again all, best wishes

CubeAce wrote on 5/17/2020, 4:52 PM

@Jacek-Szczerba

Hi Jacek.

I suppose there may be many methods to do this but I normally stick to single track single object mouse mode to avoid the things you have suffered from. It may be slower but I find I make less mistakes.

For selecting grouping or ungrouping I tend to hold down the control key (Ctrl) and left click each object I want to select and then click on the unlinked chain . If that alters the grouping of some object that you don't want ungrouped, then select the ones you want grouped using the same method and select the chain symbol.

Remember grouping will effect all objects in the same group so sometimes you will only want to group a sound track to its video and not a whole group of clips.

No apologies needed. We all make mistakes or do not understand some of the programs functions well.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 5/18/2020, 4:44 AM

@Jacek-Szczerba

Hi

. . . . Some objects need to be untied from video by ungrouping. When its happen also original sound ungrupping from video file. Can it be avoided somehow? . . .

That is the way ungrouping works - it ungroups everything that is grouped together - with the image object it becomes part of the the video/audio as a group.

@AAProds gave you the how to regroup method, however due to English not being your native language this may help:

You will see that I also put the video and audio back on to one track.

HTH

John EB

AAProds wrote on 5/18/2020, 5:55 AM

I suppose there may be many methods to do this but I normally stick to single track single object mouse mode to avoid the things you have suffered from. It may be slower but I find I make less mistakes.

Ray, this is what I thought first-off. But that isn't the issue. You cannot move that effect by itself, even in Single Object mode. It is illogical (and fraught with problems) to have to ungroup every object on the timeline to release it, then re-group video and audio, as demonstrated so well by John's video.

The feature doesn't work logically, as far as I can make out.

John, what program do you use for your mouse action circles?

johnebaker wrote on 5/18/2020, 6:12 AM

@AAProds

Hi

. . . . You cannot move that effect by itself, even in Single Object mode. It is illogical . . . .

I have to agree with you, the Image objects, Backgrounds give you a choice - they can dropped on an object, they then become grouped with that object, or created as a separate object.

. . . . John, what program do you use for your mouse action circles? . . . .

It is part of the screen recorders functionality - I have been using Screencast-o-Matic desktop version for several years now - one off payment version - it is a great little program which does not add a significant load to the PC unlike some others.

John EB