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johnebaker wrote on 9/16/2020, 2:50 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

Can share an image that does this so we can test.

John EB

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX 12, MEP Premium 2021, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2021 and Music Maker 2020.

Running Windows 10 2004 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 3 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 4:10 AM

@johnebaker

Here you go, John.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehgol1d1egwbd41/NJ3%20plus%20dots%20colour%20300.psd?dl=0

(forum won't accept PSDs).

CubeAce wrote on 9/16/2020, 6:59 AM

Hi Alwyn.

Works at my end.

Ray.

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 2004 OS build 19041.546. Direct X 12. Bios version 1401 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives. Page file space 4.75GB.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code.

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU and Intel DCH Graphics Driver version 27.20.100.8783 ., with 32GB of 2133MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB SSD D: drive for current project. 1 x 320gig Toshiba M2.1 drive for Operating System. + x2 WD BLACK 2TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.I for internal backup and 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills. Total 8TB of three external WD drives for backup.

Gigabyte NVIDIA G Force GTX 1650 Super . nVidia driver version 27.21.14.5206 : 1280 CUDA cores Direct X 12. Memory interface 128bit Memory bandwidth 192.03GB/s 4GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x16 Gen3.

Running MEP Premium 20.0.1.65. and VPX 17.0.3.68 (UDP3)

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AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 7:55 AM

@CubeAce @johnebaker

Crazy man! 😲

johnebaker wrote on 9/16/2020, 7:59 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

Works OK in MEP 2021 also checked in 2016 and it also is fine.

When I use the Preview option in PSP X9 the image is the correct way up.

Do you have an addon for Windows File Explorer installed to preview PSD images?

John EB

 

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX 12, MEP Premium 2021, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2021 and Music Maker 2020.

Running Windows 10 2004 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 3 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 8:39 AM

@johnebaker @CubeAce

Gday John, Sage Thumbs (which just updated itself, but didn't fix the MEP problem). I've checked other programs: Picasa, Photoshop, Xara PGD all show the thumbnails up the right way (as does Windows Explorer, of course).

As Maverick says: "One of life's mysteries, Sir".

Al

CubeAce wrote on 9/16/2020, 9:17 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

In explorer All I see is the normal Photoshop psd icon. I can only see what it is in either Photoshop (or associated Adobe product) and MEP /VPX. I'm assuming you have something that shows the images in explorer. Could it be that causing the problems within MEP?

I can see the file is quite small (Smaller than any of my psd files by some margin) but what other benefit do you have over using a psd file over say a gif?

Ray.

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 2004 OS build 19041.546. Direct X 12. Bios version 1401 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives. Page file space 4.75GB.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code.

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU and Intel DCH Graphics Driver version 27.20.100.8783 ., with 32GB of 2133MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB SSD D: drive for current project. 1 x 320gig Toshiba M2.1 drive for Operating System. + x2 WD BLACK 2TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.I for internal backup and 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills. Total 8TB of three external WD drives for backup.

Gigabyte NVIDIA G Force GTX 1650 Super . nVidia driver version 27.21.14.5206 : 1280 CUDA cores Direct X 12. Memory interface 128bit Memory bandwidth 192.03GB/s 4GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x16 Gen3.

Running MEP Premium 20.0.1.65. and VPX 17.0.3.68 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 9:39 AM

@CubeAce

Gday Ray, yes, I'm using Sage Thumbs to show my PSDs in Windows Explorer.

I'm constantly fiddling with those types of images (changing the text or image bits) and as you know PSD is lossless and layered. The best part is MEP and Xara accept them natively, so I don't have to flatten them every when I want to use them.

CubeAce wrote on 9/16/2020, 11:01 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

So my guess would be if you alter one of those files in Photoshop, somehow after the alteration, Sage is reading the resulting file wrong or adding a tag that then makes MEP show its orientation wrong. Like having two sets of conflicting instruction sets.

Ray.

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 2004 OS build 19041.546. Direct X 12. Bios version 1401 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives. Page file space 4.75GB.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code.

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU and Intel DCH Graphics Driver version 27.20.100.8783 ., with 32GB of 2133MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB SSD D: drive for current project. 1 x 320gig Toshiba M2.1 drive for Operating System. + x2 WD BLACK 2TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.I for internal backup and 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills. Total 8TB of three external WD drives for backup.

Gigabyte NVIDIA G Force GTX 1650 Super . nVidia driver version 27.21.14.5206 : 1280 CUDA cores Direct X 12. Memory interface 128bit Memory bandwidth 192.03GB/s 4GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x16 Gen3.

Running MEP Premium 20.0.1.65. and VPX 17.0.3.68 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 11:14 AM

@CubeAce

Thanks Ray, MEP is the only image program that I have found that gets it wrong. There's a message there.

johnebaker wrote on 9/16/2020, 1:10 PM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

What version of Photoshop are you using - the file metatdata indicates Photoshop 2.5.

John EB

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX 12, MEP Premium 2021, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2021 and Music Maker 2020.

Running Windows 10 2004 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 3 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

AAProds wrote on 9/16/2020, 9:47 PM

@johnebaker 

Gday John,

What version of Photoshop are you using

Oldie but a goody: Photoshop Elements 2.0! Got it with MEP 2004 on my then new computer. Lots of water under the bridge since then!

Just tried with Photoshop CS2 (I created a brand new PSD using another image) and have the same issue: thumbnail's still upside down.