Recording vocals with Effects

fulbourn wrote on 4/26/2012, 7:00 AM

I have put a vocal part into several songs but wish to enhance the recording wieh 'Effects'.

I have tried to 'double' and 'quadruple' voices but this simply reduces the volume considerably without adding additional vocals. The 'harmoniser' is something of a mystery and I need to know how best (and when) it is useful.  What I am really after is multi-tracking of a vocal line.

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Procyon wrote on 4/26/2012, 11:44 AM

Could you please be a little more specific about HOW you "tried to 'double' and 'quadruple' voices'"?  "Multi-tracking" can mean any number of things.

Also, can you be more specific about the "effects" you're looking to create?  (Doubling, harmony, more volume, more "ambiance", etc...)

Normally, "doubling" is just that - the vocalist is recorded singing the same tune two (or more) times.  It is the minute variations between the tracks that give the vocals the rich, thick "chorus" effect.

fulbourn wrote on 4/26/2012, 2:43 PM

Thank you Procyon

I'll be more specific.

Examples are:  FX / Vocals / Vocal Doubler  and /Vocal Quadrupler   which I thought might create the multi-voice 'chorus' I was seeking.  I did try the Harmonising agent (which is interesting) and had a measure of success but need to study its mechanics further.

Iwrote songs on a semi-professional basis many years ago and have just started again (as an OAP) and it's given me a fresh interest.  I had never thought to use software having been a Tascam Porta One cassette dab hand.

 

I have put some of  my efforts on to     YouTube fulbourn27    using Mixmaster but hope next week to add my first using Magix.

Procyon wrote on 4/26/2012, 7:08 PM

LOL...It looks like I missed one very important point.  WHICH MAGIX software are you using?

fulbourn wrote on 4/27/2012, 2:02 AM

Music Maker MX Premium 18.0

I also need a more modern sound card and faster processor. Things have moved on since my days with the Spectrum and DOS.

 

fulbourn wrote on 5/4/2012, 3:55 AM

Two of the FX effects for vocals are 'double' and 'quadruple'.

I thought that this might create the multi-voice effects for me by making those small variations for me.

Procyon wrote on 5/4/2012, 11:11 PM

Unfortunately, I do not yet have a computer worthy of loading MMM-MX on.  So, I am not familiar with the 'double' and 'quadruple' features you keep referring to, and no one with MMM-MX seems interested in helping.  A couple of screen shots posted here would help make things much more clear.

After playing with a few techniques in MM-15, I produced a very nice stacked voice effect (IMO).

Also unfortunately, they don't offer a suitable place on this website to host sound samples for the demonstration and discussion of editing techniques.

fulbourn wrote on 5/5/2012, 1:37 AM

From the FX drop-down box in the Track column, I selected Vocals. From the next drop-deown box I can select options Vocal Doupler and Vocal Quadrupler (amongst others). I can find no references in the documentation.

Procyon wrote on 5/5/2012, 10:43 PM

Unfortunately, MM-15 doesn't have those features, so there's no way for me to test this out for myself.

However, it turns out you CAN upload sound samples to these postings.  So, if you can post a sound sample of a "dry" vocal, one "doubled", and one "'quadrupled" that would be most helpful and give us a point of reference.

fulbourn wrote on 5/6/2012, 3:01 AM

I do see that there is an 'audio' icon above.

I don't like to sound too stupid but I cannot work out how to create sound samples that I can post here.

It is strange that no mention is made in the documentation.

Procyon wrote on 5/6/2012, 1:17 PM

To create a sound sample for posting you use the same techniques as creating any sound/song/track.  For a sample...

Import or record audio to a track. Apply any effects (if desired). Adjust to the desired length using the editing handles. Set the track to play "solo".  Export as an MP3 (don't forget to "normalize" and set the bitrate.)

 

fulbourn wrote on 5/6/2012, 2:10 PM

Thank you again for following this through with me. I will try to investigate further but it is surprising that the feature is not documented.

I have another teaser.  How can I tell the key (and chord) that a loop from the Mediapool / Soundpool?

I compose (initially) from guitar chords and ChordPulse. Chordpulse plays the chords I desire and I build up the initial backing this way.

Procyon wrote on 5/6/2012, 3:43 PM

We're getting a bit off the topic here.  I'm still interested in the results of using the "double" and quadruple" FX.

To answer your question, right-click on any soundpool object in the media pool and click "Properties".  Unfortunately, this only seems to work for the first in the series for any particular object.