@Midnite7X

Hi

Please help us to help you by quoting meaningful names for devices, so that users who respond do not have to go researching for what the abbreviated terms actually mean - eg I assume these are

. . . .TR 1920X . . . . = AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X

. . . . 2080S . . . = Nvidia GeForce GTX 2080 Super.

See this topic and put your computer specification details as listed, version number of Movie Edit Pro (MEP), and Windows version number in your signature - this will help with future topics you may raise - see my signature as an example.

The long encoding times are due to the CPU doing all the encoding - the GPU will be doing very little to nothing to help reduce the encoding times by using Hardware Acceleration (HWA).

Does the encoding always stop at the same point in the timeline?

John EB
Forum Moderator

@Midnite7X

Hi and welcome to the Magix Movie Edit Pro forum.

What temperature does your CPU get to during rendering?

You also don't mention how long the video export clips are or their resolutions or frame rates.

I ask because when I had a system without an integrated Intel GPU my CPU temperatures soared to well above 95c and would cause problems if I didn't pause the export frequently and the CPU was frequently running at almost full speed. In the end I had to put in a much more efficient CPU cooler to get the temperatures down to around 60c. The export times were still horrendous but I could complete the export without the need to pause or for the system to fall over or freeze.

It might be an idea to have task manager open while exporting and see which parts of your system is being stressed most.

Also, if you have a means to monitor component part temperatures, get that running as well.

Ray.

I always have the AMD Ryzen Master running to check the temperature. When rendering the CPU temp is between 38C and 41C.

Resolution is 1080p, frame rates are set to 48 FPS.

The video length differs, some are 5 minutes to 10 minutes others can be 45 minutes to well over an hour.
When I render videos I litterally only have Magix running the Ryzen Master for the temperatures.

@Midnite7X

Hi

Please help us to help you by quoting meaningful names for devices, so that users who respond do not have to go researching for what the abbreviated terms actually mean - eg I assume these are

. . . .TR 1920X . . . . = AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X

. . . . 2080S . . . = Nvidia GeForce GTX 2080 Super.

See this topic and put your computer specification details as listed, version number of Movie Edit Pro (MEP), and Windows version number in your signature - this will help with future topics you may raise - see my signature as an example.

The long encoding times are due to the CPU doing all the encoding - the GPU will be doing very little to nothing to help reduce the encoding times by using Hardware Acceleration (HWA).

Does the encoding always stop at the same point in the timeline?

John EB
Forum Moderator

 

 

 

I apologize for my abbreviation of parts I'm used to it from part forums. My CPU is overclocked to 4.05 GHZ and it runs pretty cool all things considered. No the encoding stops randomly as sometimes its 10 min in and it stops other times it stops 75% through or less. Honestly it is very random

@johnebaker @Midnite7X

Hi.

Temperatures look fine but the randomness of it is throwing me which is making me wonder if it could be a hardware issue but I also just noticed the uncommon frame rate. What are you recording with that produces a 48fps output? Could you switch to 50fps when you record files? If you are recording game play, try using OBS Studio for recording and set a more common frame rate for video rendering.

What dialogues are you getting when importing files? Is MEP able to match the frame rate in the project movie setting?

I think that could be one source of the problem.

The other, if it's a hardware problem could be ram. As you have so much of it you could try using less and seeing if things improve or do a memory check test.

I'm not sure of this last recommendation but if you are overclocking for gaming I would set a separate un-overclocked user profile for video rendering or stop any type of overclocking at all.

I tried to overclock my system slightly and couldn't render a file at all. That could be I'm not that good at overclocking or MEP doesn't like it.

Either way give that a try.

Ray.

@Midnite7X

Hi

. . . . Honestly it is very random . . . .

Randomness can be the most difficult thing to analyse.

There are several issues that could cause a render to abort - in order of decreasing probability:-

• an object on the timeline that Movie Edit Pro (MEP) has an issue with it could be an image, video clip, or audio clip - this is the most common.
   
• Windows power management putting a device to sleep when there is no user activity eg: USB ports if using external hard drives.
   
• Windows going into hibernation.
   
• other programs eg an Antivirus scan or backup process starts

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker @Midnite7X

Hi.

Temperatures look fine but the randomness of it is throwing me which is making me wonder if it could be a hardware issue but I also just noticed the uncommon frame rate. What are you recording with that produces a 48fps output? Could you switch to 50fps when you record files? If you are recording game play, try using OBS Studio for recording and set a more common frame rate for video rendering.

What dialogues are you getting when importing files? Is MEP able to match the frame rate in the project movie setting?

I think that could be one source of the problem.

The other, if it's a hardware problem could be ram. As you have so much of it you could try using less and seeing if things improve or do a memory check test.

I'm not sure of this last recommendation but if you are overclocking for gaming I would set a separate un-overclocked user profile for video rendering or stop any type of overclocking at all.

I tried to overclock my system slightly and couldn't render a file at all. That could be I'm not that good at overclocking or MEP doesn't like it.

Either way give that a try.

Ray.

I use OBS to record my gaming videos. Overclocking helps the recording process since more cores are being used to play the game as well as record. I've done my research for overclocking and its very common if not recommended for Ryzen threadripper CPU as well as any Ryzen really. RAM is needed to be high and a good CAS to make sure the Threadripper can overlock properly. I'm not sure what you mean by dialogues please clarify for me.

OBS frame rates are 48 fps currently
I can up it to 50 PAL, 59.94(strange I know) or 60 anything below 48 looks pretty terrible.
 

@Midnite7X

Hi

. . . . Honestly it is very random . . . .

Randomness can be the most difficult thing to analyse.

There are several issues that could cause a render to abort - in order of decreasing probability:-

• an object on the timeline that Movie Edit Pro (MEP) has an issue with it could be an image, video clip, or audio clip - this is the most common.
   
• Windows power management putting a device to sleep when there is no user activity eg: USB ports if using external hard drives.
   
• Windows going into hibernation.
   
• other programs eg an Antivirus scan or backup process starts

HTH

John EB

 

Windows hibernation has been turned off for years now as they can ruin an Solid State Drive.
Sleep mode is also turned off. my computer will stay on the entire time a video is rendering.
No other programs are running while I render my videos other than Magix and Ryzen Master to monitor the CPU temps Even all notifications are turned off. I've been using Magix since 2005 so if this is an issue with their software this is truly devastating to me because I chose and paid for this where I could've picked many different programs which potentially don't have these issues.

@johnebaker @Midnite7X

Hi.

Temperatures look fine but the randomness of it is throwing me which is making me wonder if it could be a hardware issue but I also just noticed the uncommon frame rate. What are you recording with that produces a 48fps output? Could you switch to 50fps when you record files? If you are recording game play, try using OBS Studio for recording and set a more common frame rate for video rendering.

What dialogues are you getting when importing files? Is MEP able to match the frame rate in the project movie setting?

I think that could be one source of the problem.

The other, if it's a hardware problem could be ram. As you have so much of it you could try using less and seeing if things improve or do a memory check test.

I'm not sure of this last recommendation but if you are overclocking for gaming I would set a separate un-overclocked user profile for video rendering or stop any type of overclocking at all.

I tried to overclock my system slightly and couldn't render a file at all. That could be I'm not that good at overclocking or MEP doesn't like it.

Either way give that a try.

Ray.

Ray, I just recorded a short clip on 50 PAL and it looks fine. When I put it into MEP it asked me if I wanted to adjust it to 29 FPS because that's what is recommended, is there a way to increase that recommendation to a higher FPS?

@Midnite7X

Hi.

You can set a project up manually in File / Settings / Movie, or when setting up a new project select the frame size and frame rate of the recording as below. Do not tick the 'Use settings for new projects' box.

Also always use the drop down menu for exporting to whatever file type you use.

and set the parameters from the drop down list to match the file.

Those are just examples, but it's better to set your own settings than rely on automatic selections for different types of uploads like for the internet host channels.

Ray.

@Midnite7X

Hi.

You can set a project up manually in File / Settings / Movie, or when setting up a new project select the frame size and frame rate of the recording as below. Do not tick the 'Use settings for new projects' box.

Also always use the drop down menu for exporting to whatever file type you use.

and set the parameters from the drop down list to match the file.

Those are just examples, but it's better to set your own settings than rely on automatic selections for different types of uploads like for the internet host channels.

Ray.

 

Thank you my good man this was a great help. I rendered a video before without issue and it uploaded to YouTube as well. Ray you were a huge help.

@Midnite7X

Hi

Recording at 50fps with MEP thinking it is 29 fps suggests there is a setting wrong in OBS

Before setting up the project as @CubeAce recommends, use MediaInfo to determine the actual frame rate and frame rate mode - it might be variable in which case you may have issues with audio sync on export from MEP.

If it is variable frame rate then you need to set OBS to record at constant frame rate.

If you wish to post the analysis data, copy it from the Text view in MediaInfo.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

In OBS Studio, if Common FPS values are selected, will not give variable frame rates. The default setting is common frames per second. Ha! and there is the 48fps! I never noticed before.

I wouldn't even know how to set the other two choices up.

Ray.

@Midnite7X

You may even find your render times speed up a bit if MEP is not trying to alter frame rates to match the file's frame rate. Glad it's working.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . The default setting is common frames per second. . . . .

Common frames per second (fps) is exactly what is says - they are the most common frame rates used for capture.

OBS by default records at Constant Frame Rate (CFR), unless otherwise specified using custom encoder options.

However, if when recording at CFR it cannot keep up with the fps set, it will drop frames and the capture becomes Variable Frame Rate (VFR).

John EB

@johnebaker @Midnite7X

Hi John.

It has never happened to me but I don't game.

I thought the setting could be forced.

Ray.

@johnebaker

Sorry. I showed wrong panel.

Ray.

@Midnite7X

You may even find your render times speed up a bit if MEP is not trying to alter frame rates to match the file's frame rate. Glad it's working.

You were a huge help I sincerely thank you for taking the time to help me out

@Midnite7X

No problem.

I learn from other people's problems. I enjoy the challenge.

Ray.

@Midnite7X

Hi

Did you check the recorded video with MediaInfo?

If so what was the result.

John EB