Selecting audio channels in the editor has changed with SF16

Jon-Urban wrote on 1/19/2023, 1:01 PM

In every past version of Sound Forge that I've used that allowed editing a multichannel file (5.1, 4.0, etc), from 10 to 15, when editing a file I could select individual tracks by double clicking on the channel, hold down the [ctrl] key, then double click another channel, and either play those two channels, copy those two (or more) channels for pasting elsewhere, or modify only those channels (volume, etc) and it has become a natural thing for me to do in Sound Forge.

However, in SF16, it does not work this way and it is rather infuriating. If I want to move the front channels to the rear, for an example, I cannot select them both by double clicking each on in turn. The first one gets selected, but the second one now does some other function. So now if I want to copy Channels 3, 4, and 5 and overwrite them into channels 4, 5 and six, there is no way to do it other than to go back to SF 15.

I asked about when SF16 came out and was told it would be fixed in a future patch, but that was some time ago. Is this still planned? Why can't there be a setting in "Preferences" that allows the user to put this ability back into the program.

For a stereo file it's not a huge deal, but with surround files, it's a royal pain.

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Jon-Urban wrote on 3/20/2023, 10:50 AM

Can someone check and see if this situation has been fixed in SF17. I am not going to upgrade if it's not. I will go back to SF10 and stay there. It's lean and functional

SP. wrote on 3/20/2023, 11:00 AM

@Jon-Urban isn't the demo version for SF available?

JoaoBC wrote on 3/21/2023, 9:55 PM

Yes. There is a demo version.

JoaoBC wrote on 3/21/2023, 9:57 PM

Yes. There is a demo version.

https://dl03.magix.com/trial_soundforgepro17suite_dlm_kluw9n.exe

john_barr wrote on 3/22/2023, 6:15 AM

Can someone check and see if this situation has been fixed in SF17. I am not going to upgrade if it's not. I will go back to SF10 and stay there. It's lean and functional

Hi, @Jon-Urban

SF 17 still has issues. You must use an old version.

rraud wrote on 3/22/2023, 11:03 AM

Yes, the double-click selection problem remains in SFP-17 (or is worse). Try double-clicking as fast as you can. It is aggravating for sure.

johnebaker wrote on 3/22/2023, 11:35 AM

@rraud

Hi Rick

Does not slowing down the double click speed in Windows Mouse settings not fix 'double-clicking as fast as you can' to get a response from SF?

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rraud wrote on 3/22/2023, 3:29 PM

Does not slowing down the double click speed in Windows Mouse settings not fix 'double-clicking as fast as you can' to get a response from SF?

The Windows mouse and/or touch pad click speed settings did not resolve the issue. I tried that when I initially noticed the issue in an early build of SF-16.

jim-atkinson wrote on 7/22/2023, 1:24 PM

how do i work on a sound file when i can't double click in sf 17?

jim-atkinson wrote on 7/22/2023, 1:27 PM

space bar doesn't always make audio play in sf17. what's going on?

raypat3 wrote on 12/13/2023, 1:15 PM

Copy by dragging mouse between selection markers. Hopefully the double click select process can be solved.

rraud wrote on 12/14/2023, 10:14 AM

how do i work on a sound file when i can't double click in sf 17?

Hi @jim-atkinson, it is frustrating or sure and should have been addressed long ago with SF-16, where the bug originated
Otherwise try double-clicking really fast.. or use left/right arrow keys whilst holding the 'Shift' key. There are other options using the Shift key to select as well.

space bar doesn't always make audio play in sf17

I have not read other user reports of this behavior or experienced it.
btw, in some modes and circumstances, the 'Space key' is inherently relegated to other functions.
If that is not the case, maybe try the reset procedure in the 'File' menu.

Jon-Urban wrote on 12/14/2023, 10:27 AM

It's very annoying. I have updated SF from every version going way back to Sonic Foundry 4.5, but I did not upgrade to SF17. Instead I went back to SF10 and everything works perfectly. I can't understand how they could make such a major change without a way to allow the user to revert via a preferences menu or something in the interface. It can't be that difficult

rraud wrote on 12/14/2023, 11:12 AM

SF-10 works great, I use SF-15 when I need to use VST-3 plug-ins, SF-16 & 17 will not properly display third-party 32 bit VST-2 plug-ins, making them unusable, so both16/17 are useless to me 90% of the time.