Unable to use RX Noise Reduction

marc-salvatore wrote on 10/20/2017, 9:09 AM

I just upgraded from Sound Forge 9 to Sound Forge Audio Studio 12. In SF9 I can open RX Noise Reduction, take my sample and then "select all" and run it. In SFA12 I can do the same until I need to select the entire waveform. There is no way to do it. Am I missing something???


T.W. wrote on 10/23/2017, 3:30 AM

is it possible to take the sample and close the plugin, then select all and open the plugin and work with the sample you selected before?

marc-salvatore wrote on 10/23/2017, 12:03 PM

The effect resets when I exit the module so the only workaround is to save it in the RX settings menu before exiting. A big step backwards from how it used to work.

marc-salvatore wrote on 10/25/2017, 10:12 AM

UPDATE #1: I received a response from MAGIX tech support.

"Since I'm not familiar with this particular plug-in and it's workflow, I'm not sure I completely understand the problem situation. It is correct that, once the plug-in dialogue is up on the screen, you are no longer able to change anything about the selection in the Sound Forge timeline. However, what would speak against doing the "Select all" before actually opening the plug-in dialogue? Is this something specific to the workflow of this particular plug-in?

My video response:

marc-salvatore wrote on 10/27/2017, 11:47 AM

Update #2.

NOTE: I was pleased to get quick responses from an actual person but it sounds like this issue will not be addressed unless other complain as well. Looks like the Sound Forge I've known and always preferred as my go to audio editor is no longer. Noise reduction is an important part of my workflow on multiple files and the workaround is far too inefficient when an older version of the program does it much faster.

MAGIX TECH SUPPORT: "Thank you for your message and the detailed illustration of the problem. I assume that's what you meant. The problem seems to be, that any plug-in dialogue in our new implementation of SF has the sole focus and doesn't allow for any operations in the timeline behind the dialogue window. So, this clearly conflicts with your desired workflow. I have passed this on to development for their attention.

Are you currently able to work around this problem? Is it e.g. possible to first mark the noise sample for the denoiser, open the denoiser plug-in, use the learn function, and then somehow save the noise sample from within the plug-in window, so you could then close the plug-in dialogue again, change the selection to your entire file, re-open the plug-in and then load the noise sample from within the plug-in?

I cannot say for sure if and how soon this can be addressed in a way that would allow you to go back to your old workflow. So, I hope you can currently work around this issue. Thanks for your understanding."

T.W. wrote on 10/30/2017, 10:24 AM

Hello Marc,

i understand completly your problem, and denoising is a main usecase from you. To get an fast workaround you can use the build in DeNoiser under Tools -> Audio Restauration -> DeNoiser. It works really great.

here i found a nice tutorial how to use:

marc-salvatore wrote on 10/30/2017, 11:16 AM

Thanks T.W. but Izotope RX Noise Reduction is superior and I paid $300 for the program so I intend to use it.

T.W. wrote on 11/1/2017, 7:57 AM

In SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 12 and in 10 it is not possible to change the selection, when a plugin is opened. This is a feature from the Pro versions. but we will take it in as feature request.

marc-salvatore wrote on 11/1/2017, 8:06 AM

Ok but since you list VST plugin support I did not expect a difference from the pro version. I asked for a refund but never heard back from tech support. Version 12 is useless to me without this feature.

By the way there is a bug in your free trial system. I did install the trial but it said my trial had expired even though I never download and installed version 12. I did try previous versions of both Pro and studio as noted in my products page.

T.W. wrote on 11/1/2017, 11:07 AM

Hey marc,

Of course we want that you can use your plugins and thats why the requested feature will come with an update.


marc-salvatore wrote on 12/9/2017, 8:37 PM

Just wanted to update that Magix gave me a refund.so I will be upgrading to the Pro version of Sound Forge which I believe does not have this issue.

marc-salvatore wrote on 7/2/2018, 10:51 AM

Has this problem been fixed in any recent updates? I cannot find a change log.... thanks.