Upgrade from movie edit pro plus to pro premium 2021 not working

Leif-Kirchmann wrote on 10/18/2020, 5:57 AM

Hi guys,
I bought the license to upgrade from MAGIX Movie Edit Pro Plus to MAGIX Movie Edit Pro 2021 Premium but MAGIX Movie Edit Pro 2021 Premium is not working properly, in general is super slow, I can't the play some movie formats I could play before with Pro Plus like mp4, mov, etc. additionally I only get sound in most videos with randomly working with some others like .AVI although still very slow. Anyone out there experiencing the same? I am using the factory settings on both versions of MAGIX Movie Edit.
I attached a screenshot for a little guidance.

My pc specs:

  • Intel Core i7-4770 @ 3.50GHz
  • 16gb RAM
  • Windows 10 Pro N (Up to date)
  • Nvidia GeForce GTX 770

Thanks in advance,
Leif

 

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CubeAce wrote on 10/18/2020, 7:11 AM

@Leif-Kirchmann

Hi Leif.

Which version of MEP Plus did you upgrade from?

If the 2019 version or earlier, did you check the new minimum specs page for the new software requirements before ordering?

I ask because your Intel processor and possibly your nvidia card are not fully supported for hardware acceleration in the new version.

Sometimes it is better not to upgrade software expecting better performance without checking minimum requirements. MEP 2021 will run on your PC but it will be slower than versions not using the new Infusion engine.

Also remember minimum requirements are just that. Where possible the system should exceed them. This is because the newer version is meant for 4K editing as well and subsequently the PC specs have gone up.

To get the files to show within MEP you will have to deselect hardware acceleration for playback in programs / import / export from within MEP but this may slow the machine down further depending on the file types and resolutions you work at.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 10/18/2020, 7:34 AM

@Leif-Kirchmann

Hi Leif and welcome to the forum

After the upgrade, did download and install all the extra content?

From your computer specs the Nvidia card is not compatible with MEP 2021 for Hardware Acceleration in the Preview monitor?

Is MEP 2021 using Hardware Acceleration on export to mp4 or AVCHD - you will see this at the top of the export dialog if it is

Are the videos from a Sony HandyCam or SportsCam?

Have they been through a video converter?

John EB
Forum Moderator

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Leif-Kirchmann wrote on 10/18/2020, 12:51 PM

Hi guys,

Thanks for the fast reply.
Yes I downloaded all the extra content with no positive results. The videos are not being processed through a video converter and they come from a Sony Handycam. I will try to deselect hardware acceleration for playback and post the results.

/Leif

TheoHE wrote on 10/18/2020, 1:07 PM

Hi, I recently "upgraded" my MEP 2019 to the new 2021 version and it has been such a battle, with a big lag doing even simple editing. I managed to burn a 30 minute AVCHD project but it took almost twice as long as my old program. My HP Envy laptop specs are Windows 10, Intel Core i7 8550u @ 1.8 GHz, 4 core, 8 threads. 16 GB RAM, Nvidia GE Force MX150, Intel (R) UHD Graphics 620. I mistakenly thought the program would still work for me as I do not do anything in 4K. If the program is so fussy why doesn't it detect that the system is not compatible as some other software does? Magix quite aggressively promoted this update every time I started up MEP. I was attracted by a quicker engine for hopefully burning projects faster and software for stabilising shaky clips. Problem now is that the updated MEP 2021 deleted my earlier version of MEP during the installation process. Is there anything I can do to get my previous version back? I'm pretty upset at spending A$69.99 just to get a whole lot of frustration. I imagine that there are a lot of people possibly feeling the same way.

CubeAce wrote on 10/18/2020, 1:14 PM

@TheoHE

Hi Theo.

Yes you can get to an older version of MEP to reinstall.

Scroll down to the bottom of this page to find the previous version that you had and download.

If you have only recently upgraded you could go to the magix sales department and ask for a refund sighting your reasons. They are normally quite good with reasonable requests. Just be polite about it as you have been here.

Much appreciated you did not rant as some others have in the past.

Ray.

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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AAProds wrote on 10/18/2020, 6:38 PM

@TheoHE

If the program is so fussy why doesn't it detect that the system is not compatible as some other software does? Magix quite aggressively promoted this update every time I started up MEP. I was attracted by a quicker engine for hopefully burning projects faster and software for stabilising shaky clips. Problem now is that the updated MEP 2021 deleted my earlier version of MEP during the installation process. Is there anything I can do to get my previous version back? I'm pretty upset at spending A$69.99 just to get a whole lot of frustration. I imagine that there are a lot of people possibly feeling the same way.

I sympathise. Adding capability (improved 4k editing) shouldn't reduce performance for normal stuff. And the new specs are typical Magix; confusing and misleading.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

CubeAce wrote on 10/18/2020, 7:37 PM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

I'm not sure what you mean by

shouldn't reduce performance for normal stuff.

as it hasn't. If anything it has increased performance if you have the correct machine specs.

What I have to ask myself is why does anyone upgrade if what they have works?

Never take notice of the advertising. Always read the specifications and understand the implications.

It's difficult enough doing a system build to cope with an individuals current needs let alone future needs.

The way things are going at present, the system I built this time last year will be out of date performance wise inside of the next two years or possibly earlier. My only options will be to upgrade again or stick with older software which may not work because Windows is now a dynamic operating system changing constantly to keep up with newly released hardware specifications. Even I'm not happy about that but IMHO it seems to me to be the current state of affairs.

Ray.

 

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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johnebaker wrote on 10/19/2020, 4:31 AM

@TheoHE

Hi

. . . . If the program is so fussy why doesn't it detect that the system is not compatible as some other software does? . . . .

It does however both the UHD 620 and the Nvidia GE Force MX150 which is the laptop version of the GT 1030 are present and the program will try to use one of these GPUs.

If it does not detect a suitable graphics card then the program will automatically fall back to using Software encoding which uses the processor.

However, the laptop manufacturer has probably disabled the UHD 620 so only the MX150 is used, this GPU does not support NVENC which is needed for hardware encoding.

The net result is that the program is trying to use a disabled GPU and can't. This is where you have to turn off the Hardware Acceleration settings to force the program to use software encoding.

HTH

John EB

 

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TheoHE wrote on 10/19/2020, 1:36 PM

Thankyou to everyone for the feed back to my problem, I tried your suggestions and changed several of my settings, mainly Display Options, Video Mode to Compatibility Mode. I may have been a bit harsh on Magix as my first project that I tried on MEP 2021 and had all the problems with, was an old partially completed project that I had started several years ago, and all the video files were stored on an older powered external hard drive. I started a new project from scratch with MEP 2012 with my new settings and am really pleased to say that the program is responding quickly without the glitches and delays that I had before. I then tried my old project again with the new settings, there was an improvement but changing from story board mode to timeline mode was still very slow. I did however manage to finish the old project and the render and burn time for the 30 min AVCHD disk was a respectable 39 minutes, much faster than my previous attempt. I will stick with MEP 2021 for my new projects and finish my older projects on another computer that has MEP-mx. I started with movie edit pro 15. Thanks again for your help.

Theo HE

 

johnebaker wrote on 10/19/2020, 3:25 PM

@TheoHE

Hi

Thanks for coming back - pleased to hear your are now up and running.

Happy editing

John EB
Forum Moderator

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.