Vegas video Stabilisation not working in Movie studio 2023.

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 9:14 AM

I have followed the instuctions in the manual & nothing happens i.e. shaky videi remains shaky.(Apply effect/Anallyze motion data/ which shows plug in analysis with Autoi zoom check box cheked

I tried the same videoi in another video editor & i could remove the shake completely

Am i missing some thing

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johnebaker wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:10 AM

Hi

. . . . nothing happens i.e. shaky videi remains shaky . . . .

That is quite likely if the degree of movement requiring stabilisation is too much for the effect to handle, the stabilisation applied is too excessive, as shown in the example below, requiring more zoom to remove borders.

If you have it, ProDad Mercalli is a better stabilisation plugin, as you can see below, which does not suffer the same potential issues as the Vegas stabilisation.

HTH

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:22 AM

@ John

Thx . From where do I get the Prodad Metcalli plug in ?

Reyfox wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:26 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT you can look HERE.

There is the Mercalli V5 Suite for Magix, and the latest version Mercalli V6 is a stand alone app.

I suggest you download the trial version and see how well it works with your footage.

But if the footage is like someone who has had too much caffeine in their system, nothing will work.

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 10:34 AM

@Reyfox

Thx.I find it too expensive .I do have another software MovAvi videoi suite which does the job very well & it costs around 80 $ only(business version)

I seem to have made a mistake in buying Magix Movie studi 2023 since it can not do the required stabilisation

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 11:16 AM

Please find the Shaky vs Stabilised video demo acomplished with another 80 $ vide oediting software(which could not be stabilised with Movie studio 2023 ata all (& hence useless to me)

First is the shaky part followed by the stabilised part

Reyfox wrote on 9/22/2022, 11:49 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT it does look good. Now, can you supply a link to the $80 software? I don't see it.

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 12:19 PM

@Reyfox

https://www.movavi.com/suite/buynow.html#main?asrc=main_menu

I dont know whether this would be accessible from your country since it is given in Indian rupees.Any how all the best.As you may see the non business version is only around 25 $ (in Indian currency)

Reyfox wrote on 9/22/2022, 12:45 PM

It's about $91 here in Poland.

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 12:51 PM

It's about $91 here in Poland.

Still a good deal compared to what it does & price of others

Reyfox wrote on 9/22/2022, 1:28 PM

Not sure about it being a good deal. There is more to video than stabilization. It is one part that I seldom, if ever use. I have Mercalli V5 and V6 and have yet had a need to use them. There are other factors in editing. How fast can I edit, and what tools are available (plugins).

But I've always advocated that you use the tools that best suit your editing needs.

johnebaker wrote on 9/22/2022, 1:37 PM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

Hi

There is this alternative method which costs nothing and works very well which another user, K-Wood, has posted today, for what is in effect stabilisation here.

HTH

John EB

 

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Gid wrote on 9/22/2022, 3:54 PM

@johnebaker Tried that method in the other post, this video is a bit shaky for Attach picture to work well, so did V Video Stabilisation 1st, exported, then did the method in the other post, I'll post the results on that post.

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/22/2022, 7:50 PM

Not sure about it being a good deal. There is more to video than stabilization. It is one part that I seldom, if ever use. I have Mercalli V5 and V6 and have yet had a need to use them. There are other factors in editing. How fast can I edit, and what tools are available (plugins).

But I've always advocated that you use the tools that best suit your editing needs.

Stabilisation is a big deal for me & doing it in a simple way is even more of a big deal since i am not a profesional videographer .As a wild life photographer my focus is on still photography .I do take lot of videos of birds & animals & they are shaky since i shoot with a 600 mm lens which is pretyy heavy. & i shoot mostly hand holding

I just require a video editor which can do video editing of such shaky video in a simple manner producing professional looking videos

As of now magix movie studio is not able to do the stabilisation in a simple manner where as Movavi does it in a very simple manner.I rather spend my time doing my still photography instead of spending more time video editing

One more irritating issue with Movie studio 2023 is that it does not accept all formats in a straight forward manner e.g the footage from Sony A1 is greeted with an error message that "Quicktime is not installed"

Movavi accepts it with out any errors & it seems to have the bells & whistles which are adeqaute for me.Learning curve is also simple for Movavi

Indeed every one to their own video editing tool though it is surprising that Movie studio 2023 does not provide a simple solution for stabilisation

 

 

 

 

AAProds wrote on 9/22/2022, 8:17 PM

Agree. Magix might finally be a quick encoder, but it is lacking in other areas. That Vegas Stabilisation effect should be removed. It just doesn't work.

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johnebaker wrote on 9/23/2022, 3:28 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

Hi

. . . . i shoot with a 600 mm lens which is pretyy heavy. & i shoot mostly hand holding . . . .

A solid tripod, preferably with a fluid head if panning, is essential for video shooting using this kind of focal length, it is rare that I can get steady enough shots at these ranges withou some support for my arms eg leaning on a wall or bracing myself against a post/building or other solid object.

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/23/2022, 3:35 AM

#JohnBaket

while a tripod is desirable ( I use a Gimbal head with a heavy carbon fibre tripod for shooting stills in hides) it is not always possible to use one specially when one is shooting from a vehicle on a safari or on a boat

Hence I require stabilisation for most of my bird & animal videos

AAProds wrote on 9/23/2022, 4:04 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

I don't know how enamoured you are with Magix, but it has a deal which includes standalone Mercalli 6. That is a gobsmackingly good stabiliser. I did a test with Mercalli 5 and another user-technique here:

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/solved-locked-on-absolute-object-tracking-in-vpx-super-easy--1306395/#ca1812180

Unfortunately, the Mercalli 6 deal is a standalone program, not a plugin, but it may suit you: stabilise then bring it into Magix to edit. That is how I am going to use it if I lose the Mercalli 5 plugin.

The Mercalli 6 offer is at the bottom of this page:

https://www.magix.com/gb/video-editing/movie-studio/purchase/#c1574372

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/23/2022, 5:08 AM

#AAProds

i think the Mercalli 6 is only for upgrades & not for new purchases ( as in my case )

AAProds wrote on 9/23/2022, 5:20 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

Arrh, yes, I didn't think of that.

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Gid wrote on 9/23/2022, 1:34 PM

@Venkatesh-VTVT  I get a similar result in Mercalli v6 as @AAProds v5 version that he posted in the link shared above,

Yes out of all the stabilization software I've got, Magix Vegas version is crap, the MovAvi version seems to be better looking at your vid but if you look at the price of these cheaper editing software's it's a bit of a luck of the draw type of thing, compared to the price of some of the stabilization software that's available the price of MS is a pittance, so to be honest I wouldn't & didn't expect the built in stabilizer to be much good.

If you want ' a video editor which can do video editing of such shaky video in a simple manner producing professional looking videos' you either have to be lucky & find one like you did, the MovAvi or pay professional prices,

MS is the cheapest & most basic editor I own, but it's fast & stable, I still use it for simple editing & have updated/upgraded it each yr since 2004, for the price I'm more than happy with what i get.

PS, can i ask - .'I do take lot of videos of birds & animals & they are shaky since i shoot with a 600 mm lens which is pretyy heavy. & i shoot mostly hand holding,' - so knowing the kind of videos you make did you test the V Stabilization when you downloaded the Trial of MS?

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/23/2022, 11:55 PM

One more video stabilising software & this one called Openshot is free & the stabilisation is simple to implement too

The following footage is done with Openshot a free video editing software

 

AAProds wrote on 9/24/2022, 12:43 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT Not bad for a freebee. Not sure about that flashing title at the start! 😉

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/24/2022, 12:50 AM

#AAProds

That was a quick & dirty job & hence pardon the starting flashing

me_again wrote on 9/25/2022, 4:07 AM

Greetings,

I'm a little late seeing this thread but I'd like to add my two pen'orth if I may.

Sometimes with my VHS transfers, shaky video is a bit of a problem - to say the least, and whilst Mercalli 5 has a good attempt at some clips it's not always totally succesful. That's when I use VirtualDub 2 and the DeShaker filter.

It's a little awkward to get used used to and is quite often painfully slow. The preset settings(?) work well for most of the time but occasionally a bit of tweakng is required.

I loaded Gid's clip it into Virtualdub 2 and cropped to just the bird and the stump. Added deshaker and then removed the crop filter.

The result is quite good I think (this was recorded playing through Virtualdub2 so there is a slight choppines. The ORIGINAL is on the LEFT (although I think that is obvious):-

Just thought I'd throw it into the ring.

AndyW

ps Gid's clip requires the 64-Bit version of Virtualdub 2

Excellent Tutorial for deshaker

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