Video Pro X12

Photo_G wrote on 3/2/2022, 4:55 PM

If you're a Movie Edit Pro or Movie Studio user and have considered Video Pro X, HumbleBundle has a great deal on version 12 right now, along with "FXhome Ignite Keying & Flares" and some music software (e.g., ACID Music Studio 11, SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 14, etc.). It's not the current version (X13), but would qualify for an update if you wanted to do that. It also has some additional content compared to Movie Edit Pro, like ProDAD Mercalli 2.0 for more stabilization options.

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/your-ticket-to-a-new-creative-universe-software

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AAProds wrote on 3/2/2022, 6:23 PM

@Photo_G

Thanks for the heads-up!

Any comments from the floor about whether this would be $40AUD well-spent? What can VPX do that MEP can't?

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Windows 10 v21H1

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 4gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2022

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Photo_G wrote on 3/2/2022, 6:56 PM

@AAProds Here's a bit of a comparison to look over.

https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/video-pro-x/product-comparison/

Some things listed there will be specific to X13, but the newer features that are not in X12 are each listed here:

https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/video-pro-x/new-features/

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Video Pro X12 (v18.0.1.95) on Windows 10 Pro 21H1 build 19043.1586 & i9-10850K CPU @4900 MHz

64GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 SSD, RX 3060XC GPU @ 2000 MHz, w/12GB RAM and v512.15 Studio driver

CubeAce wrote on 3/2/2022, 7:47 PM

@AAProds

Hi Al.

For now at least if you don't upgrade to XPX 13 you will keep a program with the main concept encoder.

The basic effects have more control such as the brightness / contrast and colour effects. Playback for most people is normally smoother than its MEP counterpart. You should get a working crop function. All your current third party effects will be available to VPX and normally load without additional steps needed.

The audio does sound better. At least on my system I do hear a difference.

Ray.

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Running MEP Premium 21.0.2.138 and VPX 18.0.1.95 (UDP3)

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AAProds wrote on 3/2/2022, 8:14 PM

@Photo_G @CubeAce

Thanks all, I would like more control over the brightness, contrast and colour, in particular. I'll forgo 8 cups of coffee and have a look.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Windows 10 v21H1

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 4gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2022

Windows 8.1

CPU: i3-3220 at 3300mhz with 8gb RAM, GPU: Integrated/Onboard only (Intel something or other 8 years old)

Photo_G wrote on 3/2/2022, 9:30 PM

Agreed. VP X12 has a very nice Curves adjustment on the Brightness/Contrast effect that is missing in MEP/MS. I've also found that Mercalli 2.0 stabilizes my shots better than the default VEGAS Stabilizer, which also has more compensation options than in MEP/MS 2022.

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Video Pro X12 (v18.0.1.95) on Windows 10 Pro 21H1 build 19043.1586 & i9-10850K CPU @4900 MHz

64GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 SSD, RX 3060XC GPU @ 2000 MHz, w/12GB RAM and v512.15 Studio driver

browj2 wrote on 3/3/2022, 8:37 AM

@AAProds

Hi,

Here is an old listing of most of the features of VPX that I can think of that are over and above MEP Plus/Premium. There are duplications with the Magix comparison table, of course as there was no comparison table when I did this. Also, I added a note about a bug with the Project Temp Folder (ticket raised)::

  1. Two monitors - source and preview
  2. Source monitors has other purposes - comparison images, measuring instruments
  3. Measuring instruments: VectorScope, Waveform monitor, RGB parade, Histogram
  4. Project folder with one level of virtual folders, can be saved separately and imported into a new project. Very useful for creating rough movies from DV tape where everything is in one file and you want to separate out scenes from different subjects. Ex. A DV file may have a wedding, a vacation and Christmas on it and you want to split this up to have similar topics in separate movies and then edit them separately in their own project. VPX12/13 bug - cannot import trimmed clips directly to the Project Temp Folder properly - loses the start.
  5. Additional buttons on tracks, main ones to mute video and audio separately (MEP mutes both)
  6. Audio - moving audio object to less than a frame
  7. Effects - under Brightness/Contrast - Colour curves - RGB for brightness/contrast and individual color curves Red, Green Blue
  8. Same effects area - can insert LUTs
  9. Effects - under Color correction - 3 colour wheels - the "Highs", "Mids" and "Shadows" ranges can be adjusted individually
  10. Multi-cam - 9 tracks
  11. Multi-language capability - meaning when you burn a DVD you can select the language of the sound track if you created different language audio tracks
  12. DVD creation - import and export PSD format giving you wide latitude for changing the screens, buttons, etc. for DVD burning. Can use Xara or PhotoShop for this
  13. Movie objects (nested sequences) Movies can be used in other movies as individual objects. These objects keep the action close at hand and can be used as many times as needed within the project.
  14. EDL transfer to DAWs - Audio files can be directly transferred to DAWs such as MAGIX Samplitude using EDL transfer, and you can individually bounce all audio tracks to hard disk.
  15. Loudness normalization according to EBU R128 Complete broadcast capability: Video Pro X offers loudness normalization for professional audio products in accordance with the new international EBU R128 guidelines.
  16. HEVC/H.265* support -  Video Pro X is the world's first video editing program with Intel HEVC hardware encoding. HEVC/ H.265* is the successor format to H.264 and offers improved image quality at file sizes that are up to 43% smaller.
  17. Native ProRes support Video Pro X now fully supports ProRes video codecs for Apple. Directly integrate ProRes files into your Windows system.
  18. Precise color grading with 16-bit deep color
  19. 10-bit/12-bit support for professional formats
  20. Direct access to Xara 3DMaker for modifying and creating 3D titles
  21. One can also link MEP/VPX and Samplitude (and Samplitude Music Studio) in a master/slave relationship to edit both simultaneously; great for scoring videos but requires multiple screens, powerful computer and 2 audio cards.
  22. VPX uses the Samplitude Engine for audio.

Here is what the scopes look like in the Source Monitor:

There is no way that I would go back to MEP.

VPX12 worked fine on my old computer and has the old Size/Position zoom slider that I wish Magix would put back in.

John CB

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browj2 wrote on 3/3/2022, 8:45 AM

Looking at the Humble Bundle details, it says that Mercalli v5 Suite is included. If so, then that is absolutely superb!

John CB

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Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 8:49 AM

@browj2 That's odd. Yesterday the description said Mercalli 2.0. I can confirm that it doesn't include the Mercalli 5 Suite, just the Mercalli 2.0 stabilizer. There's no standalone, and it can't be used with other NLE's as far as I can tell.

browj2 wrote on 3/3/2022, 8:54 AM

@Photo_G

Here is what I see in HB:

John CB

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Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 21H1; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

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Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 8:58 AM

@browj2 Same here, but it didn't say that yesterday. I'm re-downloading the package, in case it has been updated. I'll report back shortly.

CubeAce wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:09 AM

@browj2 @AAProds @Photo_G

That's not what the history section of VPX shows though John. I think HB have made a mistake.

Ray.

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1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

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Running MEP Premium 21.0.2.138 and VPX 18.0.1.95 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

AAProds wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:10 AM

@browj2

Thanks for that list, John. Doesn't play my Lossless videos properly, unfortunately. And it's got the MEP mouse-grab-during-backup bug too.

 

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MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Windows 10 v21H1

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 4gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2022

Windows 8.1

CPU: i3-3220 at 3300mhz with 8gb RAM, GPU: Integrated/Onboard only (Intel something or other 8 years old)

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:13 AM

Wow. Here's what my installation looks like. It did prompt me to activate 2.0 yesterday, but didn't prompt me for a key. I don't see the v5 menu at all, even after a re-scan. I'll open a case w/HB and ask about this.

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64GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 SSD, RX 3060XC GPU @ 2000 MHz, w/12GB RAM and v512.15 Studio driver

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:21 AM

@AAProds It's not there in my re-installation. Very strange.

CubeAce wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:25 AM

@AAProds

Hi Al.

I just press Escape whenever I have the mouse problem. That seems to happen whenever an automatic save is taking progress.

In fact a few things happen with MEP such as if I am typing here awaiting an export to finish, when the export finishes, if I'm still typing here, I open the MEP burn to disc menu.

Ray.

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 21H2 OS build 19044.2075. Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives. Page file space 4.75GB.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version 31.0.101.2111 with 32GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB SSD D: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 250GB SamSung Evo 970 drive for Operating System. + x2 WD BLACK 2TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.I for internal projects 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x WD RED 2TB drive. Total 12TB of four external WD drives for backup.

Gigabyte NVIDIA G Force GTX 1650 Super . nVidia gaming driver version 31.0.15.1694 1280xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 128bit Memory bandwidth 192.03GB/s 4GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x16 Gen3.

Running MEP Premium 21.0.2.138 and VPX 18.0.1.95 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:32 AM

@AAProds Thanks, here's my plug list for reference. It's definitely missing. I have logged this with HB support.

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Video Pro X12 (v18.0.1.95) on Windows 10 Pro 21H1 build 19043.1586 & i9-10850K CPU @4900 MHz

64GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 SSD, RX 3060XC GPU @ 2000 MHz, w/12GB RAM and v512.15 Studio driver

AAProds wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:40 AM

@Photo_G

Arrh, I think I know what's happening. We're both picking up filters/effects that are already on our machines. I have Merc 5 from my MEP 2021, and I don't have any of those Newblue filters you have. My guess is you have Newblue installed for MEP?

I've deleted my earlier posts to keep the topic "accurate".

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MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Windows 10 v21H1

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 4gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2022

Windows 8.1

CPU: i3-3220 at 3300mhz with 8gb RAM, GPU: Integrated/Onboard only (Intel something or other 8 years old)

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 9:46 AM

@AAProds Yep. I jumped on the Movie Studio 2022 Platinum deal with NewBlue TotalFX.

Former user wrote on 3/3/2022, 2:57 PM

@AAProds Thanks, here's my plug list for reference. It's definitely missing. I have logged this with HB support.

proDAD Mercalli V5 Suite is missing from Video ProX 12 purchase as well.

Ticket sent to HB

nah-nah wrote on 3/3/2022, 4:46 PM

I can see the confusion, when you install it you also get this image.

And then on the Magix Video Pro X page with the X12 release date;

"Real-time video stabilization For the first time, video stabilization is possible without time-consuming analysis or rendering. The time-unlimited full version of proDAD Mercalli V5 Suite allows for real-time video stabilization in Video Pro X. proDAD Mercalli V5 Suite is included upon purchase of new software or extension of the Update Service, or when you upgrade."

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 4:50 PM

@nah-nah Thanks! I didn't even notice that. Maybe we -should- have it!

Photo_G wrote on 3/3/2022, 6:29 PM

Fwiw, the X12 manual only shows V2. I have also emailed proDAD support to ask abut this.

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Video Pro X12 (v18.0.1.95) on Windows 10 Pro 21H1 build 19043.1586 & i9-10850K CPU @4900 MHz

64GB DDR4 RAM, 2TB M.2 SSD, RX 3060XC GPU @ 2000 MHz, w/12GB RAM and v512.15 Studio driver

AAProds wrote on 3/3/2022, 10:06 PM

@browj2 @CubeAce

Gents, out of interest, what is the update status of your VPX 12? The recent Humble bumble is 18.0.1.95.

Ta!

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Windows 10 v21H1

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 4gb RAM, GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP, Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, 8tb of HDDs for data

MEP 2022

Windows 8.1

CPU: i3-3220 at 3300mhz with 8gb RAM, GPU: Integrated/Onboard only (Intel something or other 8 years old)

Former user wrote on 3/4/2022, 1:06 AM

@browj2 @CubeAce

Gents, out of interest, what is the update status of your VPX 12? The recent Humble bumble is 18.0.1.95.

Ta!

Same here...... 18.0.1.95.... and check for updates show no updates available.