[VPX] keyframes for "Section" effect

SullyPanda76us wrote on 4/14/2021, 2:05 PM

Hi everyone...

I'm trying to add keyframes to the cropping (aka "section") of a video

I mainly want to cut out from mouth above to a "witness" that moves a lot (its for a family video, nothing legal)

Track 1: Main video + blur

Track 2: Main video + section

Surprisingly, "section" cannot add keyframes

Any ideas for workarround?

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CubeAce wrote on 4/14/2021, 2:51 PM

@SullyPanda76us

Hi Sully.

Have you not added size / position to your section crop?

Ray.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 4/14/2021, 3:54 PM

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

As you have found section cannot be keyframed to move from one area to another in the same clip, as you commented

. . . I mainly want to cut out from . . . .

make a cut at the point where you want to cut away from and reset the section on the second part to the area you need.

An alternative is the Camera/zoom effect which can be keyframed.

HTH

John EB

 

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SullyPanda76us wrote on 4/14/2021, 4:04 PM

Thanks @johnebaker

I also tried that, but the problem is that ratio is fixed, thus, loosing lateral material.

I know I can manually set an alpha mask... but seems so complicated for such an easy task, that I thought there was another way of doing it

 

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

As you have found section cannot be keyframed to move from one area to another in the same clip, as you commented

. . . I mainly want to cut out from . . . .

make a cut at the point where you want to cut away from and reset the section on the second part to the area you need.

An alternative is the Camera/zoom effect which can be keyframed.

HTH

John EB

 

 

SullyPanda76us wrote on 4/14/2021, 4:07 PM

@CubeAce, yes. But SizePosition is computed after Section, so you have [The Same Section] moving to different sides of the screen

 

@SullyPanda76us

Hi Sully.

Have you not added size / position to your section crop?

Ray.

 

johnebaker wrote on 4/14/2021, 4:34 PM

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

. . . . I also tried that, but the problem is that ratio is fixed, thus, loosing lateral material. . . . .

In that case can you explain more about what you are trying to do.

Thanks

John EB

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CubeAce wrote on 4/14/2021, 5:17 PM

@SullyPanda76us @johnebaker

I too am a bit perplexed over the requirements but it may mean you need to make a video of the clip with the pan as you want it first and then import that to size and position that cip to move as you need it to.

Ray.

 

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SullyPanda76us wrote on 6/4/2021, 8:05 AM

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

. . . . I also tried that, but the problem is that ratio is fixed, thus, loosing lateral material. . . . .

In that case can you explain more about what you are trying to do.

Thanks

John EB

perhaps this is a better example:

Grandma filmed child doing gymnastik at school.... she filmed with zoom very far away... and not centered...

Need to stabilize video...

johnebaker wrote on 6/4/2021, 9:36 AM

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

I would do this as a 2 step process to avoid stabilisation induced zoom and section/zoom interactions :

  1. stabilise the video first as this introduces a zoom element into the clip in order for borders not to show, and export to Magix video MXV format
     
  2. import the MXV clip into the project and use section/zoom as required

John EB

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