@johnebaker @AAProds

I would have thought the Forum Moderators would have control to manage the Important Posts section. This past year, there were two posts started by members that discussed the release of VPX16 and MMS2025.

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/video-pro-x16-new-features-and-bug-repairs--1337652/?page=1

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/movie-studio-2025-released--1338423/?page=1

This is essentially Feedback for the current versions which should have replaced the Feedback posts for VPX15 and MMS2023. It's a little late now but something to consider when VPX17 and MMS2026 are released.

@johnebaker

You are at liberty to send a message to the author of the 'feedback' topics?

John, done. 😉

@Reyfox

In video editing, which do you think will garner more "street cred" when asked what software you use? Where does that now leave VPX? Heck, even Vegas Pro offers more compelling reasons for someone to upgrade to it for pennies more than VPX, while you still can keep MMS as you learn Vegas Pro. Now, we are only talking about MMS users upgrading. What about someone looking from say PowerDirector/Filmora/Premiere Elements/etc.? You've basically eliminated all of those potential customers by not having a website, or a poorly designed one such as what VPX has now. No one goes into business expecting repeat customers to carry them forever. There is a need for growth, new customers, in order to stay in business. If Magix thinks like this, ignoring the VPX potential, VPX is dead.

VPX deserves better. A better website, better marketing, etc..
 

I'll respond to you questions even though some are probably rhetorical.

1. With regards to "street cred", VPX doesn't have any in that sense. It can't lay claim to being used on block buster films or in major Hollywood studios so it can't realistically compete in this professional space.

2. With regards to Vegas Pro having a more compelling reason to upgrade for just pennies more than VPX. I agree with you. The current purchase price of VPX is unjustifiable compared to Vegas Pro or Davinci Resolve Studio for that matter. It's so mispriced one may think its intentional. Remember, Magix is focusing its resources on Vegas Pro. It wants customers to buy Vegas Pro and it may be sacrificing VPX to ensure those thinking of a new editor choose Vegas Pro.

3. Keeping MMS while you learn Vegas Pro is a reality. @Gid is a prime example. In fact, keeping VPX and learning Vegas Pro is an even better scenario for Magix because of the higher annual upgrade pricing for both products as compared to MMS. As we learned in this post, upgrades to VPX over the past few years have been the same as MMS and yet its upgrade price is 4 times more. The same upgrade, but costs 4 times more. This year, VPX16 came with NB Infinite Looks. Does it justify this upgrade price differential? Infinite Looks is worthless if you upgraded with NB TotalFX a few years ago. So as I have indicated before, VPX is a great "upgrade" money maker product for Magix. In fact, the current offer below only proves my point. This upgrade applies not only to VPX users but for anyone who owns a Magix product such as MMS. Even if one doesn't own VPX, see if your account qualifies. You will be presently surprised.

https://www.magix.com/index.php?id=30752&L=52&C=220&sc_src=email_2770668&sc_lid=354978058&sc_llid=25&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=20250324_1004_2024_47_auto_01_VPxul_vdprx_UPS_PID213157&utm_content=Learn+more&utm_term=en&emac=1&potrk=24b6618b8d70e06b2df15e156fb5441e1df75e118bbd97f1dd2eb6ed5c7468a0&phash=QvJ3TxBQoMXJAmKu%C2%A0

Does Magix want customers to take advantage of this offer? Absolutely! It's another $50 in their pocket with potentially a higher revenue stream through annual upgrades. And the next VPX version is coming down the pipeline soon! I personally am not worried about VPX. It will grow "organically" through MMS as its seed. VPX will never die as long as MMS stays alive because in reality VPX is MMS. And MMS is very competitive in the consumer space.

4. What about someone looking from say PowerDirector/Filmora/Premiere Elements/etc.? The question to ask is why are they moving away from these editors? If they are considering a professional editor, VPX is not on their list anyway. Vegas Pro will be in the running as an alternative. If they are tired of the subscription model then again MMS will meet their needs and at a lower price of entry than VPX. They buy MMS. They like it and eventually will upgrade to VPX. Thats the strategy.   

5. Does VPX deserve better? Unfortunately, there is only so much marketing budget to go around and Magix cannot really afford to promote 3 video editors at this stage of its business life cycle. It doesn't really need to anyway because it only really owns 2 video editors. If Magix owned Movie Studio, Pinnacle Studio and Vegas Pro, then I can see your argument. These three products are completely separate editors. BUT VPX, as a separate product, was invented by a marketer not a programmer. Take VPX, turn off a number of features and you have MMS.

Here is my final analogy. Davinci Resolve vs Davinci Resolve Studio. Studio is Davinci Resolve with more advanced features. Exactly the same as MMS vs VPX. Does Davinci Resolve Studio have its own webpage to Davinci Resolve?

No.

Take a tip from a market leader...
 

3. Keeping MMS while you learn Vegas Pro is a reality. @Gid is a prime example. In fact, keeping VPX and learning Vegas Pro is an even better scenario for Magix because of the higher annual upgrade pricing for both products as compared to MMS

@Can-Dive My transition to VP18 was easy & I moved very quickly away from MMS, yes I still learn things about VP but that's because there's so much more to it than meets the eye. Just to be clear I only bought VPX14 out of curiousity after I bought VP, I wasn't impressed & I've only updated MMS in the last 2-3yrs because it was cheap & because I was curious about how it would progress, one fortunate upgrade got me TotalFX but as far as I've seen MMS hasn't progressed, yes it got a new engine, a UI change, a few updates to keep it going & a few acquired AI fx's but at it's core it's still the same program it always has been. I've had MMS a long time, 20yrs-ish & I haven't put many vids out because of Covid & ill health but the last 1/4 of my 411 YT vids have been made with VP, so I won't be upgrading MMS again.

@Can-Dive, Davinci Resolve webpage and Davinci Resolve Studio webpage. Different webpages. Outside of the additional features in Studio vs Free, the editing part of both of them is exactly the same. Exactly. That is not the case with MMS and VPX. It is same with Vegas Pro and Vegas Pro Suite. The same editor, with the difference in what is included.

You've stated that the upgrade pricing of VPX vs MMS is large considering what you get, usually the same features each year in each of them. The question is for the user, if the additional editing features of VPX are something they would need and continue to want. The ability to handle HDR, 10bit, etc., along with the more advanced tool set in VPX, are they needed. I shoot a lot in 10bit 4:2:2 4K. A lot. I also shoot video with my DJI Mini 3 Pro drone in 4K D-Cinelike, and none of that footage will work in MMS 2024 Suite. It all works in VPX14 though.

The "upgrade" price to Vegas Pro is higher, but you get much much more than what either MMS or VPX can offer. You also get an editor that is at least trying to move forward and remain a competitive option.

As for "deserving better". I'd be happy with a better website, like it was in the past.

@Reyfox

Ya got me on a technicality.🤓 Perhaps a more appropriate term is website. Your first Davinci link is the Overview tab which pertains to both Resolve and Studio - both have buttons to download or buy. The second tab highlights Studio features but again the page is not exclusively Studio. It too has a button to download Resolve. The point is, Blackmagic Design is not trying to promote Studio as different product. Its the same product with additional features. Likewise, VPX is MMS with additional features.

You have indicated that the editing workflow is not the same between MMS and VPX. It is the same. I can jump between MMS and VPX with ease. It's not because I'm an editing guru - it's just the same product. If you watch @browj2 videos, he almost always says he is demonstrating in MMS but the editing workflow is the same in VPX or vice versa. In his mask tutorial, @browj2 is using VPX in "minimum mode" to replicate MMS. He wouldn't be able to do this if the edit workflow was substantially different between the two products.

One issue I have with VPX is that you can only have one version on your desktop. So, if you want to test it against a previous version to confirm a bug, the old version has to be on a different computer or you need a dual boot setup on your PC. A work around is to have an older version of MMS installed on your computer as a surrogate for VPX. I have MMS 2024 which I use to test against VPX16. I wish I actually had an older version of MMS, because bugs that exist in MMS 2024, still exist in VPX16.

Looking forward, VPX17 might be a little different. Magix has indicated that they are developing a feature where the track order can be freely set for each project. Therefore, the edit workflow may change if the user turns on this feature.

As for the purchase price differential between VPX and MMS, I agree with you. VPX is offering additional features, as you have mentioned, so you pay more for these features when you initially purchase VPX. My argument is you pay once for these features, but you don't keep paying for the same features. And that is what has been happening over the past few years based on comments from members who know this software intimately.

Lastly, @Reyfox, I appreciate you bringing this issue to our attention. It has generated 7 pages worth of discussion. Because of your post, I learned a lot about VPX, its history, development and future. Through the course of this discussion, I have developed an opinion on Magix's marketing strategy for VPX. I have also come to the conclusion that to improve future profitability Magix needs review and consolidate their product offerings across all business lines. That way, as users, we can continue using and enjoying Magix software.

@Can-Dive ah... technicalities are what it is all about!!! 😉 Yes, you will find Resolve Free and Studio download links on the same webpage. And yes, they are the same product, but one has more advanced features, but the core is exactly the same. That is what I stated. The "core" of VPX and MMS while similar, are not exactly the same. I pointed to Vegas Pro and Vegas Pro Suite as an example. The core software is exactly the same. I should have expressed myself better when comparing the workflow differences, but what I was trying to allude to is that again, open Vegas Pro, Vegas Pro Suite, and what is the difference? Nothing in the editing of the timeline, masking, using FX, etc.. It's all the same. No advanced editing feature differences. And it is the same thing in Resolve Free and Studio. Not the same with VPX/MMS. One is stripped down in editing features, the other isn't. That is what I was referring to. Sorry for not making it clearer.

I did point to the differences in the types of files that each can handle (VPX vs MMS) and that is a huge difference for "me". Vegas Pro versions do not have this issue, while Resolve Free will work with some and not others. I can't test because I only have Resolve Studio. And while when VMS was around (Vegas Movie Studio), one could jump in and out of it to Vegas Pro with a slight learning curve. Yes, they "edit" the same, but the editing features/abilities aren't the same. One is far more complex than the other.

I too have not understood the inability of VPX/MMS in having more than on version installed at the same time, unless one is, in MMS Platinum or Suite. Not sure with VPX. But the ability to test if a bug is present in past versions

I too am hoping the VPX17 will allow reversing track order for editing. I'd like to see how they pull it off. As for paying once for VPX features, that is with every software. You continue to pay for the "same" features with improvements and other additional features to the software, along with bug fixes. Look at what has been added to VPX with the Hub and AI. Now, if you don't need those additions, I would guess that you can stay with an older version and edit away. But still, rarely is listed what is done under the "hood" of the software.

I remember when I was considering VPX years ago out of frustration with Pinnacle Studio, wanting something more upscale in editing without breaking my bank. VPX was priced much lower than everything else out there in the prosumer/pro market. The website had videos showing what it could do. Now, nothing on the website to attract a new audience.

Consolidation of products was part of the strategy of restructuring. What is VPX's future? Will there be one? I don't know. Maybe they will let MMS handle 10bit files, import some more advanced editing features of VPX, and end VPX altogether. Only time will tell what will happen with the software under the Magix umbrella.

Hi,

In your country, what could the term "deluxe" mean? (something sophisticated? If so, were the VPX, MEP, and MMS products ever displayed in marketing as "deluxe"? As an executable program/process, it is "internally" displayed by the Windows Task Manager)

VegasCreative at some point recruited people to test Vegas Pro. I personally sent an email to technical support, trying to get information on this issue regarding VPX/MMS. But I didn't get a response. And I insisted that the email be read by the CEO, because he doesn't read the forum content (there was no shortage of good ideas).

In other words, the "money" is just sitting there, and it's a shame!

I would quickly remove all the photos of people from the website (of these products) and include what these products actually offer (and which not even the manuals explain). The features exist because many of us use them. But the vast majority of those interested are unaware of it, or even use it in a more complicated way. They have long ago introduced a section that unfortunately did not provide interested parties with a visualization of the benefits and, of course, links to tutorials. But I may be misjudging, and if they did know how to publicize it, they did not focus on it, because they were "very" afraid of the competition.

The cost-benefit ratio, security and relatively fast rendering for medium and even large projects (not sophisticated) already exist! If the program were not good, we would not be here expressing our indignation. And yet, they continue to burden it with unnecessary features! They are looking at the money and forgetting to look within themselves!

@Roberto-Goncalves, I don't know if your question was directed at me?

In your country, what could the term "deluxe" mean? (something sophisticated? If so, were the VPX, MEP, and MMS products ever displayed in marketing as "deluxe"? As an executable program/process, it is "internally" displayed by the Windows Task Manager)

If so, in the United States, it has always been Video Pro X, Movie Edit Pro, and now, Magix Movie Studio. Running VPX14, I don't see "Deluxe" in Task Manager. But Magix Movie Studio 2024 does show up as MAGIX Video deluxe in Task Manager. I don't know about VPX16 or MMS 2025.

As for what does "deluxe" mean, from Google, "particularly elegant, luxurious, or elaborate for its kind; of superior quality or refinement, highest quality".

I remember when there was an open call for VEGAS beta testers in their forum. I too applied. As for the CEO reading a user's email, don't hold your breath. I don't know of any CEO that reads any user forums. Gary Reholtz (CPO Video) does drop into the Vegas user forum from time to time. But with his new title as Chief Product Officer Video, I think he has his hands full and leaves the user forum in the hands of the very capable developers like VegasDerek and others. As for the "money just sitting there" I have no idea what that means. Are you privy to the finances of Magix and see money just sitting around doing nothing? If that were the case, Magix would not have have the need to restructure and bring in other venture capitalists.

As for the VPX website, there are 7 pages of thoughts and suggestions, have you read through them? Most are very insightful, and we've discussed the short comings of the website. That is why I posted it originally. And I don't think anyone in business is afraid of the competition. If they are, they will be out of business.

I don't know if you've ever been involved in software development, but do you know what sells software? Think about it for a moment. I'll help you..... NEW FEATURES! you mention being "very afraid of the competition", try offering software without any new features and see how far that will go.

So, while the new features might not be something that you or I probably will not use, they do attract and keep current owners upgrading for the "new", and might attract new users.

And you know something? It has always been about the money. Just like when we go to work, it is about the money.

Hi @Reyfox

I could have written "fear" but I wrote "afraid". It doesn't matter! I noticed this when I started several tickets with technical support, which was in other hands and was deviating from when I said it would be useful to disclose which bugs (or some elegant synonym) they were working on, as well as that they could offer more relevant tutorials. This has been going on for some time. Today I believe it is under new management, because RMEP has taken over the management of Magix and only with time will we have a more effective response. I did some research now and ended up finding that I hadn't seen. (The interviewing reporter puts VPX/MMS products in the background. Perhaps to encourage their users!) Some VPX users have expressed their positive opinions.

@Reyfox

Hi Tony,

A couple of things:

VPX was priced much lower than everything else out there in the prosumer/pro market. The website had videos showing what it could do. Now, nothing on the website to attract a new audience.

As I mentioned, on the website, if you click on the ... and select Functions, you get most of the glitzy features plus videos. The problem is that people browsing probably won't get to this page, so it should be the landing page, or Magix should fix up the landing page and make the link to Functions easier.

Templates for sure, speed up the slideshow/editing process instead of doing things manually like in Vegas. So as an upgrade path for MMS users, VPX is the logical upgrade path IF someone wants to stay with the familiar. But after a while, even templates can be come boring to the editor. Like using the same music in every video you do. Not for me.

I presume that you are referring to templates in general, most of which are presets and can be modified, or the Movie Templates - Editing Templates Basic and Film Templates Basic. The second set , Film Templates Basic, is mainly intended to be for making a trailer. There is only one duration for each. The first set, Editing Templates Basic has various lengths, 15, 30, 60 and 90 seconds, with the music made for each length. When you apply one of these, it's opened in the template editing screen. You put in the content as shown, or not. When done click on the checkmark and your production is put on the timeline for you to do whatever you want with it. Totally flexible.

As well, the template is unzipped and put under

C:\...\Documents\MAGIX\Video Pro X\Projects

with the name and the elements, including the music and placeholders, there for you to use however you want in any project.

You can also make your own templates, zip them up, add to the menu, and use them the same way. This is something for someone who needs to do something the same way each time, like vlogging or something, with time constraints, or to just get out some footage shot without having to do much work. Just follow the recipe.

In a project, if you start off with a template and are on the template editing screen and you need to do something else in VPX/MMS, simply click on the add Movie button and that Movie opens in normal editing mode. Click back on the template movie tab to go back to editing the template. Just another of the many uses of being able to have/create multiple movies/timelines in a project.

Here is a tutorial that I did quite a while back on how to use a template and modify the result:

I have been seeing adverts for templates for Premiere Pro - Envato, Motion Array, Storyblocks, Mixkit and more. I don't know if they are customizable as they are in VPX/MMS. It seems to be a big deal.

I too have not understood the inability of VPX/MMS in having more than on version installed at the same time, unless one is, in MMS Platinum or Suite. Not sure with VPX. But the ability to test if a bug is present in past versions

Yes, this is a problem, along with the difficulty of rolling back in the event of a bad patch, something rare with Magix legacy products, but we've seen it happen this year.

There was a time when you could have multiple versions installed at the same time, but Magix changed this several years ago. The main reason that I see is that Magix changed the manner in which the additional content was distributed. Before, all content went to the Program Data folder on C drive, and any of your own additions, like templates, presets, and effects, would get lost from one version to another, as a new program data folder was created for each version. You had to download and install the additional content each time, filling up diminishing space on drive C. Now, all content goes to X:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Video Pro X or wherever you initially decided - could be another drive. A new version detects this, and you no longer have to download the additional content except for changes and additions. Your own templates, presets, effects, etc., are still there and show up in each new version. We gave up one thing for another. I prefer the way it is now, except for Magix' slow delay time in fixing a patch.

John CB

@browj2, the entire point of my original post was to point out how bland and uninspiring the VPX website is. There is nothing going on there that would make me want to investigate further. Nothing. And to me, this is something that can be easily corrected. How almost all the Magix websites look to be clones of other ones.

When I mentioned templates, I was referring to those available within the software. While not a fan of them, I can understand new users using them, or that there are times when you have to produce something quickly. I do understand how they can be used and edited. But also how they can give someone ideas when they have a mental block. As for the music they come with, not for me. I use Smartsound as my main source of music that can be easily customized. But for someone wanting to do something quick, it's fine.

Templates are everywhere. They can be a time saver for sure. And those that are available for the more upscale video editors are customizable. Even those for Vegas can be edited and saved again. When I was using Pinnacle, I created a project, saved it as a template, and used it every year for a specific year in review video. I used Pinnacle's Replace Mode in editing making it simple to use. I never use Storyboard mode in Vegas nor have I used it in Pinnacle or any other editor that has that feature, but for new people, it does provide an easy way of putting things in their right place. Your tutorial was clear, well explained, and I am sure, very helpful for those just starting out with the software. I am passing the link to a friend that has MMS 2024.

I do have a question for you. Has there been any additions to the templates in this year's version of VPX/MMS?

Thanks.

@Reyfox

Hi,

Has there been any additions to the templates in this year's version of VPX/MMS?

As far as I recall, no, and there haven't been for quite a while. New templates, intros/outros, transitions, etc., show up under the Store for purchase. Magix wants to make extra money.

As for the website, did you look at the Functions page? Would that not be a better alternative to the current default page?

I realize that templates are not for you, but I think that you missed my point about movie templates. I suggest that you actually try one out. The editing screen is quite different - not a normal timeline. As for the music, I mentioned that you can use whatever you want, just switch it out afterwards. If you create a template for yourself, you would likely use your own music. Vegas does not have anything like this. A Magix movie template is not simply a normal timeline with placeholders that you change out; those are simple to create. Unless you actually try it, you won't know what I'm talking about.

The linked tutorial shows how I started with a Movie Template and changed it to get what I wanted, complete with my own music composition, sung by my wife (not her type of music).

There are undoubtedly users out there who would probably like AI to take over the entire process - select a loosely defined template, here's a folder with my videos and photos, go through my music and Magix' music, go AI and create a 5 minute movie for me.

John CB

@browj2

Greetings,

Yes, I've been to the 'functions' page. The "Cut and Trim" video is lackluster. Look at the Vegas video, all done in Vegas without any additional plugins. That is something that might cause you to look further. I do agree it at least gives the prospective person something better to work with, but it is "old". Again, I point to the video on the Vegas webpage showing new features and some other "stuff". Anyone can see the difference even how the webpage is laid out visually.

I am not interested in templates at all. I used them in the past in Pinnacle (Montage) for certain projects where I could not create the photos gently floating down to a table, but that's about it. I have tried the ones in MMS when I was showing a friend who I bought MMS for, what can be done in the software. Still not for me and the way I edit. I do know that the music can be switched out, but again, the templates aren't for "me". You are correct, Vegas doesn't have anything like Magix templates that are included. Neither do any of the other editing software like Resolve, Premiere, Media Composer, Final Cut Pro. These editors have the tools to create them if needed. Or, you can buy them. I haven't seen anything in the templates that I can not easily reproduce myself.

Here is a video a friend of mine did in Vegas Pro a few years ago. Watch from 1:04. Now, you understand why the software I listed do not come with templates. Yes, you can buy them (even for Vegas), but most want to do it themselves.

I needed a template movie to be able to drag and drop to placeholders. I used the same template each year for several years. Pinnacle did what I needed it to do. Just load the project, drag and drop to the placeholders.

As for AI creating everything, that is what some people want. They've shared these types of comments about Vegas Pro's AI Assistant, which create a video template with music, voice over and video clips from the Vegas Hub. Amazing what it can do. To look at the footage someone has, along with their music, I think they would have to better organize their media, and guessing that the AI will have to be trained on their media too. Don't know how long that will take or the computing horsepower to do it. Most don't have really good computers now. But we are already on the way for AI creation of everything. Not for me personally.

@Reyfox @browj2 @johnebaker @Gid @Can-Dive @AAProds @Roberto-Goncalves

I'm not sure when these changes happened on the website but I noticed a couple today.

The free version of Music Maker no longer exists for download and Rescue Your Video Tapes comes up as sold out again. The link for their free video editor still exists but the download link now goes to MMS and the previous app is now gone. Also how long has the Independence sampler workstation been around? I don't recall seeing that before.

I've never used Templates either beyond trying them out. I just had a play with a few & it reminded me how basic they are, a bit of video, text & some audio, nothing I couldn't easily reproduce. The same with the Movie templates, place holders for objects that once applied can't be easily changed after going to the main timeline. In VP I can if I want easily create such templates & use the Replace function to swap out any of the media on the timeline without altering the length or applied effects.

I just had a play with the Movie templates in VPX, does it have a 'Replace' option.

For me the whole idea of using an editor has always been to build my own creation not use some premade template, when I have played with these templates I alter them so much I might as well build them from scratch myself.

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I was looking for a clip in the Import tab, I know the name of it but I recognise the the thumbnail more. Couldn't find it & then remembered it's a .mov, these thumbnails don't show for me, do they show for you others?

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There's many 'discussions' about What this editor can do & what that one can't, mentions that this one can do what that one can but it's just done in a slightly different way... I don't really want to get into that but as far as future improvements to MMS/VPS -

The biggest one or maybe I should say the first one that jumps out to me is just the general use of the timeline, cursor etc.. A recent post about not being able to split an object while it was playing, to me that's like trying to hit a moving target, ie not good. But the thing that was also mentioned was that an object couldn't be selected without stopping play, that one does bug me, every other click in MMS seems stop play & require the need for hitting the spacebar or play button to resume playing..

The loop playback now catches me out all the time or frustrates me a little, create a loop region & hit the [▷] button - it plays 👍, stop play, reposition the cursor midway on the loop region (maybe I don'tt want to play the whole loop region) & hit the [▷] button again it plays from the beginning of the region, doh! I need to go to the top of the timeline & reselect the loop region to the period I want. If I don't do this & hit the normal play button it starts playing from the cursor but of course it doesn't loop & carries off down the timeline. 😒

In VP I can click around to my hearts consent & everything keeps playing, I don't have to go to the top of the timeline to create a region. When I hit play it plays from wherever the cursor is & loop plays...

I know this video makes no sense & it's just me clicking around but I just want to show that I can pretty much do whatever I want, click here n there, adjust SPR, create loop regions, add & alter fxs but VP will keep playing & looping. MMS/VPX on the other hand is methodical & I don't mean that in a good way.

And don't b*tch about me promoting VP too much, whenever I post such content I'm just trying to show why I couldn't go back to MMS & poss why others wouldn't want to buy MMMS nor VPX.

@Gid

And don't b*tch about me promoting VP too much, whenever I post such content I'm just trying to show why I couldn't go back to MMS & poss why others wouldn't want to buy MMMS nor VPX.

Which is completely pointless because Magix isn't reading this forum. If you don't like Magix, make some suggestions to Magix; stop coming on here badmouthing a program you don't even use. You are clearly trying to turn people away from Magix NLEs.

@AAProds 

Why do you think 'Magix' has anything to do with my comment. This is a forum, a place for open discussion, I didn't mention anyone in person, in fact I didn't tag anyone, it was just an open comment sharing information but I did however foresee the poss response to the main part of my comment & your reply was as expected, so I added that bit at the end, my prediction was correct. You're the only one that seems to have a problem with me showing what can be done in other software. Why would anyone buy VPX for pretty much the same price as VP & 'future improvements' to help MMS/VPX stay in the game is a big part of this post, so if you can't respect that that is all I'm showing & you have nothing worthwhile to say other than personal comments then don't..

I apologise for the baited final comment, maybe I could've worded it better but based on your previous comments I suspect your reply would've been along the same lines anyway with or without that final part, I repeat this is a public forum for open discussions, I've owned MEP/MMS for 20yrs right up to the recent 2025 version so I have every right to be here, I'm free to share what can be done in other editors & what could turn people off or on to one or the other without having to take flak from you..

BTW. Magix NLE's inc VP 😉

@Reyfox @CubeAce @AAProds @Can-Dive @Gid @browj2 @Roberto-Goncalves

Following discussion with @johnebaker we believe this discussion is really now going nowhere and is actually becoming rather "toxic" and leading to some level of personal attacks.

As such, it is inappropriate for these forums (and indeed, against the Community rules #1) and so is now closed.

Jeff
Forum Moderator