Why does it take forever to export a video in Movie Edit Pro Plus

NateDogg22 wrote on 12/1/2017, 4:03 PM

I recently got Movie Edit Pro Plus, and it takes over 50 minutes to export a 2 minute 11 second video. My computer is well over qualified to render quickly. My System: Windows 10, AMD FX 8350 Eight-Core Processor 4.00GHz, 16.0GB RAM, and I have a 64 bit operating system. But for some reason. Movie Edit Pro Plus is the only editor that does this.

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emmrecs wrote on 12/2/2017, 4:17 AM

Hi, welcome to the Magix forums.

I suspect one reason for your very slow export may be your AMD CPU, sorry 😢. MEP in its different variants tends very much to be optimised for Intel processors.

However, what you have not told us is what is the format of the imported video files and to what format you are exporting them. These two factors could also be considerably affecting your export.

I have a computer whose spec is very similar to yours, but using an intel i7 processor and 32GB RAM. With certain video files and particular export formats, VPX and MEP can export in faster than real time. e.g. recently exporting DV-AVI to DVD, a 60 minute file took approximately 48 minutes to complete the export.

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 32 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, Audient EVO 16 audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Vegas Pro, PhotoStory Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

RogerGunkel wrote on 12/2/2017, 4:42 AM

I suspect Jeff may be correct.

I have a second slightly older PC with AMD CPU that takes about 10x real time to export to mp4 from an HD timeline. My main computer has an Intel i7 processor, no graphics card and 16Gb ram and I have just finished rendering a minimum effects 30 minute 4k timeline down to 1080 mp4 and it took just 13 minutes. However if you are using many effects, re-colouring, stabilising etc it will lengthen rendering times .

Roger

johnebaker wrote on 12/2/2017, 5:09 AM

@NateDogg22

Hi

. . . . AMD FX 8350 Eight-Core Processor 4.00GHz, 16.0GB RAM, and I have a 64 bit operating system. . . . .

Am I correct in assuming that this PC is fitted with a NVidia graphics card?

If so then the issue is no hardware acceleration capablility and you are relying on software encoding.

The specification for Movie Edit Pro calls for an 'Onboard' graphics card which is taken to mean an integrated GPU, which your AMD processor does not have, and those AMD processors that do have an APU (AMD A series) tend to have a poorer performance than the equivalent Intel processor when it comes to video editing.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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NateDogg22 wrote on 12/3/2017, 2:24 AM

Hi, welcome to the Magix forums.

I suspect one reason for your very slow export may be your AMD CPU, sorry 😢. MEP in its different variants tends very much to be optimised for Intel processors.

However, what you have not told us is what is the format of the imported video files and to what format you are exporting them. These two factors could also be considerably affecting your export.

I have a computer whose spec is very similar to yours, but using an intel i7 processor and 32GB RAM. With certain video files and particular export formats, VPX and MEP can export in faster than real time. e.g. recently exporting DV-AVI to DVD, a 60 minute file took approximately 48 minutes to complete the export.

Jeff

The imported file is .AVI and exporting it to MPEG-4.

NateDogg22 wrote on 12/3/2017, 2:45 AM

Hi, welcome to the Magix forums.

I suspect one reason for your very slow export may be your AMD CPU, sorry 😢. MEP in its different variants tends very much to be optimised for Intel processors.

However, what you have not told us is what is the format of the imported video files and to what format you are exporting them. These two factors could also be considerably affecting your export.

I have a computer whose spec is very similar to yours, but using an intel i7 processor and 32GB RAM. With certain video files and particular export formats, VPX and MEP can export in faster than real time. e.g. recently exporting DV-AVI to DVD, a 60 minute file took approximately 48 minutes to complete the export.

Jeff

So pretty much if you have something other than Intel your screwed?

RogerGunkel wrote on 12/3/2017, 9:19 AM

 

So pretty much if you have something other than Intel your screwed?

Not necessarily, my older pc has an amd processor slower than yours but is ok with hd video. Can you be a bit more explicit about the video inport and export. Is your original footage 4K, HD, SD, and is mp4, mts, m2ts, avchd? AVI covers a pretty broad spectrum of formats. Is your mp4 export in HD, what size and bitrate?

Roger

browj2 wrote on 12/3/2017, 9:35 AM

Hi,

...And, do you have any effects on your clips?

John C.B.

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Scenestealer wrote on 12/3/2017, 4:32 PM

@NateDogg22

Your best bet is to purchase (5 Euro) and install the Main Concept encoder via MEP and select that instead of the Default Intel codec in "Program settings>Import/Export tab". The MC encoder is considerably faster than the Intel encoder if you are restricted to Software export only (ie. No Intel Hardware acceleration).

If you have many effects on your timeline clips you can do some parallel processing of the effects during encoding on whatever GPU you have by choosing "Calculate effects on GPU" at the bottom of the Export template window. This will take some load off your CPU.

Peter

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 2004, MEP2016, 2022 (V21.0.1.92) Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX12 (V18.0.1.85). Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 2004, MEP2015 Premium.

NateDogg22 wrote on 12/4/2017, 1:15 AM

Hi,

...And, do you have any effects on your clips?

I have little to none.

terrypin wrote on 12/6/2017, 3:48 AM

Without the details that Roger mentions it's hard to see why your export speed should be so significantly slower than his, using his AMD-based PC.

If posting those details here doesn't quickly explain the distinction, I'd suggest you then make a very small, non-confidential project (exhibiting the slowness) and use File > Backup copy > Copy project and media into a folder, zip it up and upload it to a host site (I use Dropbox for instance). It won't help much if non-AMD users like me try exporting the project, but I'm optimistic that if Roger does so on that PC then we'll get resolution.

One other point: if your 'little' usage of effects happens to include collages, we'll point you to another potentially relevant thread.

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johnebaker wrote on 12/6/2017, 6:35 AM

@NateDogg22

Hi

. . . . . I have little to none. . . . .

In order to help you resolve this problem asap, if there is another cause apart from the lack of Hardware Acceleration, please be more specific.

There are either none or a few, if a few please detail which effects are applied - many effects rely on hardware acceleration and if you have used any of these than they will make for the long render.

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

NateDogg22 wrote on 12/7/2017, 12:52 AM

@NateDogg22

Hi

. . . . . I have little to none. . . . .

In order to help you resolve this problem asap, if there is another cause apart from the lack of Hardware Acceleration, please be more specific.

There are either none or a few, if a few please detail which effects are applied - many effects rely on hardware acceleration and if you have used any of these than they will make for the long render.

John EB

 

I have only 2 fade effects on the project

johnebaker wrote on 12/7/2017, 3:34 AM

Hi

. . . . have only 2 fade effects on the project . . . .

Which ones - please be specific - and how many occurrences.

MEP has a large collection of fade effects ranging from a simple fade in/out to complex fades which require hardware acceleration. The type and number of times they occur can determine the rendering speed.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

NateDogg22 wrote on 12/11/2017, 11:08 AM

Hi

. . . . have only 2 fade effects on the project . . . .

Which ones - please be specific - and how many occurrences.

MEP has a large collection of fade effects ranging from a simple fade in/out to complex fades which require hardware acceleration. The type and number of times they occur can determine the rendering speed.

John EB

Just the normal fade, nothing special.

browj2 wrote on 12/11/2017, 11:13 AM

Further to what John EB said, which version (see under Help, About) are you using? Have you updated to the latest patch?

Did you try doing something similar in a new project?

No collages? There are some that take an interminably long time to export.

John CB

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2025 Platinum; Music Maker 2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

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