Why these limitations - improvement suggestions

Lowbow wrote on 2/17/2020, 5:05 AM

Video Pro X v17.0.3.68

On Windows 10 machine with AMD CPU and Nvideo Graphic card and 32Gb RAM.

Rendering:

When rendering to HEVC or MP4 you can only choose 25 or 50 f/s as max. I produce video with 100 f/s, mp4 format and would like to keep as much video data during the editing process - e.g. if I have to handle/edit a videoclip further in another editor or have to hand it over to someone else, who uses another editor and maybe on another platform all together, I can only save the video with 50 f/s as max. I can save my video in the Magix Video Pro X format with 100 f/s (though it's not listed as an option - You have to type it yourself - and luckily the Editor accepts the value). But the mxv format produces very large files and can't be transferred to another editor software or any video players.

Effects:

I don't understand why you can't change or choose an order for the effects placed on a videoclip. And if you have used a specific order of effects, it more than often is changed when you reload your project the next time. E.g.: I use Neat video (which was my reason to buy Video Pro X in the first place) to clean up noisy footage that has been recorded under less optimale light conditions. I place this plugin first in my effect chain. Then I will add some effects to adjust the color, contrast, gamma etc. But when I reopen this project, the Neat video plugin is placed beneath the other correction tools. But in the Neat video plugin I made adjustments according to the raw footage and not the color, contrast, gamma etc. corrected video feed. It would be so much better if you actually was able to control the order of the loaded effects and had the possibility to rearrange them.

The effect tab GUI is annoying. You can't resize it horizontally and thereby you have to guess the name of some of the effect plugins, because you can't read the whole plugin name in the list and there is nothing you can do about it. NewBlue fx is a good example. It is often a packages/group of plugins which all start with the same naming and that is all you're able to see. You have no way to veryfi if it is video effect package 1,2,3 or 4 or ect. You have to guess. And if you have many plugins, the scroll function is too sesitive. You go from top to bottom of the list in a blink of an eye.

Acceleration:

You list that in the newest update of Video Pro X you have included Intel quicksync and Nvidia optimisation and there by made the program 8.5 times faster. In my book Quicksync is old news and belong to the past. Nowadays I am more concerned if the editor program is optimised for CPU core counts, as AMD Ryzen and Threadripper is far superior (and in most cases much cheaper) and is what I use now. But maybe the use of these CPU's doesn't need video renderer optimisation? Not to mention Nvidea optimisation and non for AMD Radeon.

Comments

emmrecs wrote on 2/17/2020, 8:24 AM

@Lowbow

Welcome to the Magix forums.

I will leave others to comment on the specific points you make but you need to be aware that, since these are user to user forums, it is highly unlikely that any Magix staff member will actually see your post!

If you want to draw the developers' attention to your suggestions I suggest you use the Support link in the header of any forum page and create a ticket there.

HTH

Jeff
Forum Moderator

browj2 wrote on 2/17/2020, 9:29 AM

@Lowbow

As per Jeff's comments, even if you raise a ticket with Magix, you will have to demonstrate much better your problems. See the bug list and some of the videos. Even with all of this, we have had very little action from Magix.

Rendering

Out of curiosity, why do you need to export at 100fps? What equipment plays back 100fps? Is this for playback in a cinema?

Reordering Effects
Your point 1 about reordering of effects was discussed in this thread. See point 17 and the various comments about point 17.

Note my comment about Neat Video requiring other effects to be done first. Do the NV effect first and then try to modify something, like brightness or colour. Does it work? I don't think so. This is probably a limitation of NV, not VPX. I found that the best way is to do any cropping, stabilization, Neat Video, in that order, export to mxv and use that file in the project for further processing. It makes the editing process much quicker as smooth previewing with NV on a clip is almost impossible - a limitation of NV, not VPX.

As for the usefulness of being able to rearrange effects, my question on the Vegas forum was more or less answered as it was important to probably a couple of users to be able to do so under special conditions.

You can do what I suggest in the other thread and copy and paste the effects selectively, one at a time in the sequence that you want. However, you will likely have to go back anyways and make adjustments to any that have been impacted by reordering. Nothing to be gained that I can tell.

Effect Tab Width

Your point 2, I agree. Below is a screen shot showing the problem. I will add it to the bug list as a minor problem.

Note that the first column on the Templates tab can be resized. The Effects tab should be similar.

Acceleration

See some of the threads where things like this was discussed. You should take some time to review what has already been said about VPX and MEP concerning speed, acceleration, GPU, CPU, video cards, etc.

John CB

Lowbow wrote on 2/17/2020, 12:51 PM

@Lowbow

Welcome to the Magix forums.

I will leave others to comment on the specific points you make but you need to be aware that, since these are user to user forums, it is highly unlikely that any Magix staff member will actually see your post!

If you want to draw the developers' attention to your suggestions I suggest you use the Support link in the header of any forum page and create a ticket there.

HTH

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Thanks. I am new to this - to be honest. I will take your advice and create a support ticket. Though I understand that the impact on VPX development may be little. I have been using VPX since 1918 and thought that the "bugs" would get fixed in the next update... for years. And I actually tried to find the place where I could place a support ticket and couldn't find it and ended up making this comment in the forum instead.

browj2 wrote on 2/17/2020, 2:03 PM

I have been using VPX since 1918

@Lowbow

Making you the oldest user on the forum 😁.

There is a Support link at the top of the forum, beside Forum, Tutorials, Media. You have to follow through until you get the screen to send a message.

John CB