Would enabling YouTube ad revenue for a MMJ song violate the non-commercial license?

cender99 wrote on 10/7/2015, 8:18 PM

Hey there,

I've been using Music Maker Jam for a while (the HP-exclusive edition) and I've created a few songs. I understand that I'm not able to sell them because they use loops and melodies from the soundpacks, but when I was about to upload one I stopped, because I caught myself in a jam. If I upload the video anywhere, it's fine as long as I don't sell it. But YouTube ad revenue is different, because I'm allowing YouTube to get space on my video for ads. Is this technically breaking the non-commerciality, or is it fine because the ads are on the specific video and not the song?

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johnebaker wrote on 10/12/2015, 4:32 AM

Hi

. . . . But YouTube ad revenue is different, because I'm allowing YouTube to get space on my video for ads. Is this technically breaking the non-commerciality, or is it fine because the ads are on the specific video and not the song? . . . .

Yes this is breaking the licensing terms - you are still receiving financial gain.

Your only option is to import the MMMJAM project into MMM 2015 Premium and then purchses the Pro licences for the soundpools used. 

Note: this may then lead to problems with Youtube (and others) claiming copyright violation on music which uses the same soundpools - this is a Youtube (and others) problem because they demand you declare you are the copyright owner which you can never be when you use the soundpools - you are a licensed user, copyright of the soundpools always belongs to Magix.

HTH

John EB

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cender99 wrote on 10/12/2015, 11:20 AM

Yes this is breaking the licensing terms - you are still receiving financial gain.

Your only option is to import the MMMJAM project into MMM 2015 Premium and then purchses the Pro licences for the soundpools used. 

Does this mean that if I don't enable ad revenue, it will be fine, or should I still get the unlimited licences for the loops anyways?

johnebaker wrote on 10/12/2015, 12:11 PM

Hi

. . . . Does this mean that if I don't enable ad revenue, it will be fine . . . . .

Music Maker Jam licensing allows you to share music created providing you make no financial gain by any means.

, or should I still get the unlimited licences for the loops anyways? . . . .

AFAICS  Pro licencing is for Music Maker only - there is no way (AFAICS) to get Pro licences for MMMJAM.

HTH

John

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Foxhound wrote on 10/14/2019, 9:06 AM

I know this is a long shot lol but lers just say someone made it big because dre found your mmj song on youtube so then u are making money from then on, does this violate any rights?

johnebaker wrote on 10/14/2019, 10:24 AM

@Foxhound

Hi

For clarification you need to Magix about this.

HTH

John EB

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Foxhound wrote on 10/14/2019, 3:39 PM

Lol im sorry i didnt understand, i need to what now?

emmrecs wrote on 10/15/2019, 4:04 AM

@Foxhound

I suspect @johnebaker intended to write "you need to contact Magix about this". You can use the Contact button in the footer of every forum page.

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Foxhound wrote on 10/15/2019, 7:16 AM

Thanks

ralftaro wrote on 10/21/2019, 6:16 AM

I know this is a long shot lol but lers just say someone made it big because dre found your mmj song on youtube so then u are making money from then on, does this violate any rights?


Sorry, I only saw this thread now.

I think the answer to this question would actually be pretty straightforward, as long as you answer the question how you'd actually be making money in that scenario. If it means that you start making money from the very compositions you made with Music Maker Jam content, then obviously that's commercial use and you'd need to look into topics like commercial licensing. You'd find more information on commercial use of Music Maker Jam content in this blog post on the official JAM/MMJ blog:

https://musicmakerjam.tumblr.com/post/158776941725/how-to-monetize-your-music

However, just because someone from a record label or a producer discovers your material, thinks you have talent and decides to start working with you, doesn't mean they'll be using that particular content, especially if there are any legal third-party ties that they don't wish to deal with. Depending on who you are and what you do (e.g. whether you're primarily a vocalist or whether you strictly produce backing tracks), they may also produce fresh material for you or in collaboration with you. So, in this case, anything you previously created in MMJ using MMJ styles becomes completely irrelevant.

Cheers!