Zooming to a specific spot on jpg then holding that spot for x seconds

FF22 wrote on 3/28/2020, 10:24 PM

I have included two sets of jpg images. In both of them I would like to ZOOM in on a portion of the image and then when it gets to the full zoom level hold on that part of the image for x number of seconds. Where x would vary. In a scenic shot, just holding long enough to enjoy the larger image. In the second example, I'd like to hold for a sufficient length of time so one might actually be able to read the text that has been zoomed. I am trying to have fun rather than just merely show the final enlarged image.

I have been somewhat accomplishing this making three copies of the initial image, using zoom on the second copy (doing a smooth fade between copy 1 and 2 and then trying to approximate the "top" zoom and using Section on the 3rd copy. I know that there has to be an easier or better way using curves?

 

If there's a specific tutorial, all the better. I've looked around and I don't think I found anything specific.

 

 

 

 

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CubeAce wrote on 3/29/2020, 3:18 AM

@FF22

I think one of your performance problems is loading full sized images rather than images that have been batch processed to the export frame size of the project. A typical frame from a 4K video clip would be around 4MP. Having any image that isn't the set resolution of a project means each frame has to be rendered in real time.

If you need to load larger images than the project settings at least reduce the quality by compression first as the differences when converted to video will hardly be noticed if the image as 80% of the original information.

That could be done as a batch process in most photo editing packages.

There are automated zoom settings / patterns in the Premium version of MEP but you would still probably be better off doing it manually for more precise control.

Ray.

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browj2 wrote on 3/29/2020, 8:14 AM

@FF22

Hi,

To do this, you need to understand keyframes. There is a quick way to get going by using Effects>View/Animation>Camera/Zoom shot. There is a good chapter in the manual about this.

With a video or photo selected on the timeline, adjusted to the duration that you want but at least 5 seconds long, you have 2 main choices, zoom out from a section or zoom in to a section.

From section: select the clip, click on From section and a dashed box will appear in the preview monitor, just like the image below. Make sure that Preview is showing in the dialogue box which means that you are in edit mode.

Move it with the mouse and resize using the corner handles. Two keyframes are created in the keyframe area, the first one will be the size/position of the rectangle that you moved/resized; the second will be the original size. The default is Over full duration. Click on 2 second edge and you'll see the two keyframes move in. You can adjust the keyframes by dragging them. Put the playback marker at the beginning of the clip and click on Play. You'll see that it starts zoomed in and then zooms out.

To section just does the opposite - starts zoomed out (100%) and zooms in to your rectangle. Now you can start playing with the other things, like the duration. Be sure to delete the current effects - pop down the menu at the top right or to the right of the text in the keyframe area.

After doing the first one, switch to Size/Position and you'll see that the Position, Size and Zoom parameters change as you scrub along the timeline when you release the mouse.

You can do the same thing here manually by yourself. Delete the previous effect. Set the playback marker, click on the +keyframe button just above the keyframe area and a keyframe will be placed. Move along the timeline. Adjust any parameter, like zoom, and a second keyframe will be placed. If you want to hold that for a few seconds, move along the timeline and click on the +keyframe button and a third keyframe will be added with the same parameters. Etc. Look at the values of the parameters of the various keyframes - Size, Position, Zoom as you move the playback marker to along the timeline. So, you can have the image flying in, rotating and zooming using keyframes.

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FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 9:59 AM

By George, I think he's got it?? (that is, if the youtube video inserts)

 

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browj2 wrote on 3/29/2020, 10:03 AM

Looks good!

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FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 10:15 AM

Looks good!

It could use some refinement. And frankly, I'm not sure how I did it. 😁

I went to Camera zoom or whatever. Added a keyframe marker at the beginning. Move to the end of the jpg and zoomed/positioned where I wanted. Upped the duration so that the zoom is not too fast (vertigo inducing). But then.... It ended on the zoom but moved on. I think I then dragged the right end of the image which extended the time at the end?? In other words, I did not want to just extended the duration of the zoom but hold on the zoomed portion for a bit. I guess I need to recheck my steps (screen recorder might have been helpful at that point).

Well, it is another raining day in Seattle, so plenty of time to experiment.

 

Thanks a bunch.

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CubeAce wrote on 3/29/2020, 10:30 AM

@FF22

Hi. I do similar to zoom but drag the timeline cursor to the next point and then in the preview window drag the image across to the zoomed position I want then drag the timeline cursor to the next point and repeat moving the image position. You can of course do much more but it's easy to go overboard as I frequently do 😂

Here's an example of mine as I tend to mix video with still clips.

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FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 10:50 AM

@FF22

Hi. I do similar to zoom but drag the timeline cursor to the next point and then in the preview window drag the image across to the zoomed position I want then drag the timeline cursor to the next point and repeat moving the image position. You can of course do much more but it's easy to go overboard as I frequently do 😂

Here's an example of mine as I tend to mix video with still clips.

Fun clip. I will admit I don't have anywhere near that much personal editing horsepower. Show picture, maybe show more extended, try zooming on it or panning across it, throwing in a title, move on to next image.

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browj2 wrote on 3/29/2020, 11:01 AM

@FF22

Increase the duration and drag the keyframes to adjust to what you want. MEP tweens from one kf to another, normally linearly. If you want to start slowly, speed up and then slow down before the next kf, click on the button to the right of the kf text. See the circle in the image. This will give you an automatic Bézier curve. VPX has another one that will give you a manual Bézier curve with adjustment handles.

In the image below, I have 2 kf's going from a zoom of 100 to 200. I opened the Size/Position popdown* on the kf using the down arrow at the left (in the circle in the image). I clicked on the show curve for the width - the curve shows in the object on the timeline, and I clicked on the Bézier button so you can see the curve is not a straight line.

In the rectangle are the tools. Look at what they do.

Popdown the menu at the right of the kf text to see other options.

There is a dialogue that helps make adjustments to kf's.

* Many keyframes are rolled up into 1 main one. Click on the down menu arrow to see the detailed keyframes.

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CubeAce wrote on 3/29/2020, 11:05 AM

@FF22

Ha!

I did that on my old system using an early i5 processor with no internal GPU and no SSDs. It just took hours to render. I only upgraded to my new motherboard processor setup in September/ October. I had MEP just over a year I think before my old PC collapsed. I even had to keep an eye on the CPU temperature and pause rendering to stop it overheating on some longer projects. I admit everything is much easier now but I did quite a bit of editing on my old machine.

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terrypin wrote on 3/29/2020, 3:00 PM

This tutorial I made some years ago about using key frames might also be helpful.


FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 4:59 PM

This tutorial I made some years ago about using key frames might also be helpful.


THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A wonderful example of zooming and panning. So you duplicate some keyframe markers to keep the "zoom level/pan" fixed at that spot for x numbers of seconds (frames) and then move on to allow it to pan/zoom out or in again.

Now, I just have to play with some of my images. I probably should browse through my project and find where I've tried with my clumsy method (3 copies, zoom middle, section last) and just grab some of them as separate projects so I don't have this huge project. Then save each and then later incorporate/import them.

 

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Scenestealer wrote on 3/29/2020, 5:30 PM

@FF22

I think I then dragged the right end of the image which extended the time at the end?? In other words, I did not want to just extended the duration of the zoom but hold on the zoomed portion for a bit.

Dragging the right end extends the length of the clip without increasing the position of the already laid down KF's. To extend the clip and increase the temporal distance between the KF's ie. slow down the effect, you would drag the rt end out then click the down triangle adjacent to the relevant effect in the key framer and select "combine effects curve with object length"

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FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 5:35 PM

@FF22

I think I then dragged the right end of the image which extended the time at the end?? In other words, I did not want to just extended the duration of the zoom but hold on the zoomed portion for a bit.

Dragging the right end extends the length of the clip without increasing the position of the already laid down KF's. To extend the clip and increase the temporal distance between the KF's ie. slow down the effect, you would drag the rt end out then click the down triangle adjacent to the relevant effect in the key framer and select "combine effects curve with object length"

Peter

Now where am I going to store this little morsel outside of the vacuum of my skull so that I can remember and find it. That tip could be very useful.

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FF22 wrote on 3/29/2020, 5:38 PM

This tutorial I made some years ago about using key frames might also be helpful.

 

Terry: I saw your animated travel route. I'd made this one ages ago before leaving the project be until this last week

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