Burning a DVD

Robert-Swope wrote on 7/27/2022, 5:32 PM

I have attempted several times to burn a DVD of a Photostory Deluxe 2022 slideshow. Every time I get to Cut 5 or 5, and the burn process is "loading disk information", my blank recordable disk is ejected from the computer. Windows 11 is the Operating System. There is no explanation as to what is happening or how to overcome this problem. Need help!

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emmrecs wrote on 7/28/2022, 4:59 AM

@Robert-Swope

Welcome to the Magix user to user forums.

Since your question clearly refers to Photostory I have moved your post to that forum area.

I suspect the problem may be that PS does not recognise your DVD Burner, and so thinks you do not have one! To hopefully rectify this first, do a search in the forums for the download of the latest Magix Burn Routines. Install them and then try again to burn your disc.

If that does not help, please tell us which brand of blank disc you are using. Unfortunately, not all blank discs are created equal!

Do you have any other software on your computer with which you can burn DVDs? Does it work properly with your DVD Burner and the discs you have? (There are a number of apps which you can use for disc burning; ImgBurn is free and relatively easy to use.)

If you do have such software, you could use the Image Recorder option within PS to create an .iso file of your slideshow which you can then burn to disc using whichever disc burning software you have. Speaking personally, I never burn a disc directly from within PS or any other Magix video product but always use the Image Recorder option and then burn a rewritable disc so I can check its contents. Once I am happy I will burn a final non-rewritable disc.

If you're not sure where to find the image Recorder option, see my screenshot below:

HTH

Jeff
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johnebaker wrote on 7/28/2022, 3:04 PM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

In addition to @emmrecs comment,:

If the DVD disc has already had an attempt at burning to it, then it may not be 'clean' state ie the discs has started to be used however did not complete, additionally using unbranded 'store' economy discs may result in a high level of failure or disc not recognised errors.

Do note that DVD-R discs tend to have a higher reliability than DVD+R

To avoid disc wastage I recommend using a DVD-RW disc for the initial burn and testing in a player

Iin case there are changes required the disc can be re-used, once the DVD is correct the DVD-RW can be copied to DVD-R and the DVD-RW re-used.

John EB
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Robert-Swope wrote on 7/28/2022, 5:02 PM

Thank you both for your suggestions. As Jeff suggested, I downloaded the latest Magix Burn Routines and tried to burn the disk again. Still no success. The blank disc is in the computer for about 10-15 second and then ejects. I am asked to insert a blank disc, which I do again, with the same results. I am using Memorex DVD-R discs.

emmrecs wrote on 7/29/2022, 3:25 AM

@Robert-Swope

What about the other questions I raised?

  • Do you have other disc burning software on your computer? Does it "work"?
  • If it does, have you tried the "Image Recorder" option?

And, one other thing I should have asked yesterday: what is the make and model number/name of the actual DVD Burner you have?

Jeff

Edit: I notice you say The blank disc is in the computer for about 10 - 15 seconds and then ejects. Can you clarify this, please? You would normally insert the blank disc before any processing of the video actually starts. In your original post you say that you see a message "Loading Disc Information". Again, I would expect to see this before any processing of your slideshow actually begins.

So, when exactly, does this ejection occur? What you write suggests it occurs even before the processing has started.

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johnebaker wrote on 7/29/2022, 6:44 AM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

. . . . The blank disc is in the computer for about 10-15 second and then ejects.  . . . . Memorex DVD-R . . . .

This sounds like either:

  • the discs are faulty, this is not unknown as I have had issues with this brand
     
  • not compatible with the DVD burner - what is the make/model of the DVD writer.
     
  • the DVD burner is faulty.

Do you have any rewritable discs? If not i would suggest you get a couple for initial writing to avoid creating 'coasters' - I use Verbatim DVD-RW

John EB

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Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Robert-Swope wrote on 7/29/2022, 1:23 PM

Okay, I will try to answer your great questions. I start the burn process and it goes on for at least 45 minutes (and an hour after I downloaded the latest Magix Burner Routines-- Version 13-something) through Cuts 1 to 5. At that point, it indicates that it is "loading disk information" and that I should insert a recordable disc, which I do at that time (in other words, I do not insert the disc prior to that prompt). And as I mentioned, the disc ejects after 10 to 15 seconds. I have tried different discs (Memorex DVD-R and Memorex DVD+R) but with the same results.

I do not know the make and model of my DVD burner-- sorry, it is simply part of the computer I have that was "built" by my local computer shop. I have burned other DVDs previously using Photostory Easy that I purchased in 2013.

And no, I do not have other software packages that allows for burning DVD.

One other thing you should know-- While all Photostory programs (Easy and Deluxe) allow for the creation of menu templates, I never have done so. In other words, my slideshows start with the first photo. However, should I create a menu template-- would that possibly have an effect on burning a DVD?

Not sure what "coasters" are. I can certainly purchase different discs if there are problems with Memorex. I have seen Verbatim products on the market.

While I have you, I have another issue with the same Photostory Deluxe slideshow. At the end of the slideshow, my last photo ends with a fade-out transition. And then, suddenly, the slideshow "bounces" back to a previous photo, most often to the next-to-last photo or the first photo in the show. I'm not sure how to fix this and whether this is an issue related only to the playback on my computer or whether the bounce will also occur on the disc I am trying to burn.

I appreciate all of the help you are providing-- thank you.

emmrecs wrote on 7/29/2022, 2:04 PM

@Robert-Swope

Thank you for all this additional information. It really is helpful!

I'm going to offer one or two ideas to you, but perhaps in a different order to the one you used in your latest reply.

  • The DVD Burner make and model: you can find this by right-clicking on the Windows Start icon and choosing Device Manager from the list that opens. Once Device Manager appears it will look something like this. (This is mine on my computer, yours will be different).
  • Click on the entry for DVD/CD ROM drives. You will then see the installed DVD Burner drive. I have three listed on my machine, you will almost certainly have only one. (This is mine below).
  • Right-click on the name of yours and choose Properties. The screen that then opens will tell you, on the General tab, whether it is working properly.
  • Assuming it is, go to the Driver tab and click the button that says Update Driver. Allow Windows to search. It may find nothing. If so, it could be worth going to the manufacturer's website, entering the model name/number and checking for an updated driver.

For the problem of the ejected disc: try inserting the disc before you begin the export process. Does this make any difference to the problem?

If you have no other disc-burning software, and to test whether your disc burner is working fully, you could download and install the free ImgBurn. Yes, it is quite old software but it works! Then use the Image Recorder option in PS to create the .iso file of your slideshow. Once it is created and saved to your computer, open ImgBurn and choose the option "Write image file to disc".

On the next screen point to where the Image File (the .iso you've just created) is saved and then click on the burn icon at the bottom of that screen to begin the burning process. This is what it looks like on my computer

At this stage don't worry at all about any of the many other settings that are available in ImgBurn; we simply need to establish whether your disc burner works!

I honestly don't know the answer to your question about the "bounce-back" at the end. Clearly, this is happening when you playback the show in PS; it will be interesting to see whether the exported show also does this. I suspect it may not.

Disc menus; I have always created a menu to accompany any DVD show. I do not think it is "compulsory" but there would be no harm in you creating a simple one to test this, assuming that all the above ideas make no difference and you still cannot burn your DVD.

One other thought, to emphasise something that @johnebaker wrote, for these "test" burns, use DVD+RW rewritable discs. The "coasters" which John refers to are what you are left with if you use non-rewritable discs and the burn fails; the resulting useless discs are suitable only to use as drinks coasters!

Sorry for the length of this post but hopefully, we may finally be able to help you to resolve this.

Jeff

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Robert-Swope wrote on 7/29/2022, 4:45 PM

Regarding my DVD Burner, I followed your instructions and discovered that my burner is TSSTcorp DVD+-RW SH-216CB (I believe that it is a Microsoft product). The General tab under Properties indicated that it is working properly. Under the Update Drive tab, it indicated that "Windows has determined that the best driver for this device is already installed".

I will work on the ImgBurn shortly.

emmrecs wrote on 7/30/2022, 4:20 AM

@Robert-Swope

Thanks again for this update.

One other thing that might be relevant here: on the screenshot where I showed how to access the Image Recorder, does yours default to showing the name of your DVD burner? It should, if PS can "see", and therefore use it.

Doing a little research on the actual burner I see it is now rather old and there appear to have been no updates to its drivers since 2006, and certainly none that are specifically for Win 10 so Win 11 is definitely not catered for! This page seems to list the latest drivers for it.

How old is your computer? Unfortunately, it may be that the drive is too old to enable you now to use it, sorry!

Jeff

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Robert-Swope wrote on 7/30/2022, 12:04 PM

My computer is brand new-- "built" by my local computer shop about one month ago (I thought I was upgrading to accommodate PS Deluxe). However, I will look into updating the burn drive.

I need one clarification-- earlier John recommended using a DVD-RW disc for the initial burn and testing and later John recommended using a DVD+RW disc. Does it matter which one I use?

Robert-Swope wrote on 7/30/2022, 12:16 PM

One question I didn't answer-- yes, the screenshot shows both Image Recorder and the name of my DVD burner.

johnebaker wrote on 7/30/2022, 1:11 PM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

. . . . earlier John recommended using a DVD-RW disc for the initial burn and testing and later John recommended using a DVD+RW disc. . . . .

That would be very unlike me if I did recommend the + versions of write once or rewritable discs - I did say: Do note that DVD-R discs tend to have a higher reliability than DVD+R

If the ImgBurn option also fails then I think the drive is faulty and may be replaced under warranty, in which case as it is a Toshiba/Samsung model and burns CD and DVD discs only, would suggest you look at the LG Blu-Ray drives, I have these in my PC and they have proved to be very reliablevery reliable for me.

HTH

John EB

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Robert-Swope wrote on 7/31/2022, 12:27 PM

I am going to my local computer shop tomorrow to have them check on my current DVD burn drive and to either update for my current use or to replace it with something better/newer. If there is still a problem, I will try the ImgBurn option. When I took a look at that option yesterday, I went to the ImgBurn website and clicked on Download and it redirected me to Wondershare and something called DVD Creator. Is this where I want to be?

 

How long will this forum be open? I may be only a few days from resolution (hopefully) but it has been very helpful and I want to continue having access to you guys.

johnebaker wrote on 7/31/2022, 4:26 PM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

ImgBurn is no longer available from the original web site, however it does have links to official mirror sites where it is still available - see here.

John EB

VPX 14, MEP Premium 2022, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2022.

PC - running Windows 11 21H2 Professional 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 2Tb (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB HDD (Data) internal HDD + 60GB internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom, Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Robert-Swope wrote on 8/3/2022, 1:16 PM

I took my computer to the local shop on Monday to check on my current TSST DVD burner. They found it working and that the most recent update had been installed (not sure of the date of the update). To demonstrate that it was working properly, they burned a DVD of about 12 individual photos from my slideshow-- granted, they did not burn the slideshow (including the 270 photos, transitions between photos, and the background music) but they said that the burning process worked fine.

I will try to burn a DVD this afternoon-- using my recently purchased Verbatim DVD-R disc that you recommended. I will provide you with notes on the process so that you are able to determine that I made all of the appropriate selections along the way.

Robert-Swope wrote on 8/3/2022, 5:28 PM

I wanted to give you the promised full report on another failed attempt to burn the DVD.

1. The first screen shot is "Disc Selection"-- I choose DVD-- and at that time, I inserted the clean Verbatim DVD-R disc into the computer.

2. The second screen shot is "DVD Burning". a. The burner identified is E:TSSTcorp (my burner). b. Disc Information-- "Media Type-- Not a blank CD" (not sure I understand that?). c. Burning speed is 1x. d. Disc Format-- MPEG Encoder Setting-- I choose "Standard DVD NTSC Widescreen". e. I choose "Apply anti-lace filter". f. Burn Options-- I choose "DVD-compatible write at least 1 GB", "Turn on burner defect management", and "Check data after burning disc".

3. I clicked on the "Start Burn Process" button

4. I received a pop-up message asking if the "Existing File Should be Used for the Film"-- I choose "Encode All" (other options were "Encode", "Use", or "Use All".

5. The burning process went through Cuts 1, 3, and 5 of 5. At the completion of that process (roughly 22 minutes) and was about to "Load Disc Information", the disc was ejected from the computer and a pop-up message instructed me to "Please Insert a Blank Recordable Disc" (remember that I had originally loaded the Verbatim DVD-R disc at the beginning (#1 above). My options were "Okay" or "Cancel"; I choose Okay. The disc was automatically reinserted into the computer. The disc remained in the computer for a few second and was again ejected. The pop-up came again and I repeated-- before finally throwing up my hands and aborting the entire burn process.

Is there something I am doing wrong? If not, the only solution I can see is to install a new burner. This just shouldn't be this difficult!!

 

johnebaker wrote on 8/4/2022, 1:15 AM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

. . . . Is there something I am doing wrong? . . . .

AFAICS everything you are doing is correct, it is the burner response to the disc in step 2b and 5 that is an issue.

A bit of a long shot - use Windows Explorer to browse the DVD drive and check if there are any files there that are ready to burn - if so delete the files, they will block Photostory using the burner.

Did you try the Image recorder option and then burn the ISO image to disc using Windows Explorer - right click the ISO image file and select Burn disc image.

HTH

John EB

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Robert-Swope wrote on 8/4/2022, 4:28 PM

I wanted you to know-- when I took my computer to the local shop, the technician pointed out that I do, in fact, have software on my computer that I can use for disc burning-- Windows Media Player. I burned a Verbatim CD-R disc today and it worked like a charm. Could the burner burn CDs but not DVDs?

johnebaker wrote on 8/5/2022, 4:49 AM

@Robert-Swope

Hi

. . . . Could the burner burn CDs but not DVDs . . . .

Not unless it is faulty.

The TSSTcorp DVD+-RW SH-216CB is a DVD burner and supports most DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD_RW, DVD+RW and some DVD_RAM formats.

The Windows Media Player burn test is not a valid test as it only burns audio discs or a 'data disc' neither are true DVD discs with menus etc.

Did you try the ISO (Image recorder) DVD burn and then burn that to DVD-R disc using ImgBurn or Windows explorer as previously suggested.

John EB

 

VPX 14, MEP Premium 2022, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2022.

PC - running Windows 11 21H2 Professional 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 2Tb (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB HDD (Data) internal HDD + 60GB internal SSD, + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom, Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Robert-Swope wrote on 8/5/2022, 1:46 PM

Wil try that suggestion now.