Than you John,

For your quick reply. I expected Magix to use the GPU for better editing experience but if I understand you well, the GPU will not be used.

Your suggestion does not work at all unfortunately. Both power saving and high performance are set to the GPU in that setting. I cannot change that. With the option on energy saving, rendering a movie still takes 30 seconds for a 2 second movie. Is that normal?

@jaap-k

The nvidia card is mainly used during playback to do the graphical calculations on some of the graphics intense effects plug-ins to help smooth the playback. I think, at least as far as I can monitor on my system, it also does some of that calculation on some of the effects during export as well but the main video encoding on export is dealt with by the Intel GPU only or in software if an Intel GPU is not present.

Export times vary wildly dependant on effects or titles used, and the export profile regarding quality of output selected etc. HD on average is much quicker to export than 4K for example or choosing 'balanced' over 'best' in the output dialogue box.

The Windows dialogue box only effects the setting of the Intel GPU and has no effect on other GPUs.

Best setting for MEP is Power Saving.

Ray.

@jaap-k

. . . . rendering a movie still takes 30 seconds for a 2 second movie. Is that normal? . . . .

The 'long' export time is possible depending on the export resolution, preset and format you are exporting to.

If you are exporting to MP4 h.264, AVCHD, HEVC (h.265) or MOV h.264 do you see 'Hardware encoding' in the top bar of the progress dialog?

Other video formats are not hardware accelerated.

What is the full specification of your laptop - see this topic for details required?

John EB

@jaap-k

Your screenshot does not even show your Intel GPU which either means there is not one in your Intel CPU or it needs to be activated in your Bios as @johnebaker suggested. Sometimes laptops do not even allow the Integrated Intel GPU to be activated.

@CubeAce

The Windows dialogue box only effects the setting of the Intel GPU and has no effect on other GPUs.

Sorry Ray but we need to clarify that statement.

How about:- MEP / VDLX is only affected (ie allowing Hardware Acceleration for export) by choosing the Intel Integrated GPU, when this is listed as the Power saving GPU in the Windows dialogue box.

Peter

My new laptop also has the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (with Max-Q Design), Core i7-9750H (with Intel UHD Graphics 630), and 16GB system RAM. I also set the preview in MEP to the Nvidia card. When encoding a video MEP shows "Hardware encoding..." on the progress dialog box and the Task Manager shows that the GPU 0 (Intel UHD) is running around 80% or more, and the CPU and GPU 1 (the Nvidia) aren't doing that much. That's the way it's designed to work from what I understand, and the encoding time for a 2 sec movie in 1080p (I'm not using 4K) is way under 30 sec.

All 9th gen i7 laptop CPUs I saw available had UHD Graphics 630, which is what does the hardware encoding for movies. If yours is only using the CPU, that's strange. The Nvidia card is excellent for other tasks. I use mine to record live full screen at 60fps 1080p or more and it hardware encodes straight to h. 265 mp4.

Thanks everybody for taking the time to help me.
Rendering does not use hardware encoding in my case. That's what it says in the top of the bar. In the advanced settings, hardware encoding is checked. No hardware encoding, but how to change that?

In the bios, there is no option to activate iGPU.

Processor:


Magix version:

Brand new laptop
256 Gb SSD
1 TB HDD

Maybe helpful?

Maybe it's better to bring the laptop back to the store?

@jaap-k@jaap-k@jaap-k @FunkyB

Hi.

Your last screen shot is only showing the nvidia GPU and not the Intel GPU.

How have you set the program settings?

Are they similar to this?

(But with your GPUs showing)

Ray.

@jaap-k

. . . . In the bios, there is no option to activate iGPU . . . .

That would suggest the manufacturer has permanently disable the integrated GPU (UHD 630).

Is this an Acer Nitro laptop?

John EB

@jaap-k

Maybe it's better to bring the laptop back to the store?

If you want a good experience with Magix editing programs then yes!

Peter

In the bios, there is no option to activate iGPU.

Processor:

That's exactly the same CPU as mine, and we have similarly spec-ed systems. Here's what mine looks like for reference.

Does the Intel UHD Graphics 630 show up in your device manager? You could try downloading Intel's driver updater from their website. It might give you different options than the manufacture's site or update utility. Also, you should install the Intel Graphics Command Center app. It replaces the old Graphics and Media Control Panel.

All of that is assuming that UHD graphics isn't disabled by the manufacturer. If it is, I would definitely return that laptop and get one that is fully functional. I shopped around a lot before buying this machine (hp Pavilion Gaming 15 Creator's Model) and the i7-9750H is a staple of all high-end quasi gaming laptops right now (ex. the Dell G, Lenovo Legion, and most OEM BTO series). I chose this hp because it has a 4K screen and was on sale.

@CubeAce

Hi.

Your last screen shot is only showing the nvidia GPU and not the Intel GPU.

How have you set the program settings?

Are they similar to this?

(But with your GPUs showing)

Ray.

 

Hi CubeAce,

There is no iGPU. The dropdownlist is empty, so it's impossible to choose.

@jaap-k

Hi jaap-k

So it would seem John is correct and that it has been disabled. Unless you can get that sorted you are sort of stuck with what you have. That may be down to the motherboard and there not being any output for the Intel GPU to go to. Electronically, those pins on the chip may not be connected I guess, and it is only a guess. I suggest you get in contact with your laptops manufacturer.

Ray.

In the bios, there is no option to activate iGPU.

Processor:

That's exactly the same CPU as mine, and we have similarly spec-ed systems. Here's what mine looks like for reference.

Does the Intel UHD Graphics 630 show up in your device manager? You could try downloading Intel's driver updater from their website. It might give you different options than the manufacture's site or update utility. Also, you should install the Intel Graphics Command Center app. It replaces the old Graphics and Media Control Panel.

All of that is assuming that UHD graphics isn't disabled by the manufacturer. If it is, I would definitely return that laptop and get one that is fully functional. I shopped around a lot before buying this machine (hp Pavilion Gaming 15 Creator's Model) and the i7-9750H is a staple of all high-end quasi gaming laptops right now (ex. the Dell G, Lenovo Legion, and most OEM BTO series). I chose this hp because it has a 4K screen and was on sale.

Hi @FunkyB,

Thanx for your help. The displaydriver for iGPU isn't showing up in device manager:

And I downloaded the latest drivers from Intel. Used the Intel driver assistant which suggests that I should download the latest drivers. But when I do, i get this typicial error:
(in english: Error. This operating system is not supported)

So, the last option is to bring this Lenovo laptop back to where it came from. Those ventilators were way to noisy anyway. Thanks @Scenestealer and @johnebaker for your time too.

Hello all.

I would like to ask you for help on behalf of my father, who is using Magix Pro for video editing, but he doesn't speak English. I, on the other hand, completely don't know this product (Magix).

In this topic, as far as I could understand it, it seems that Magix does not rely VERY MUCH on graphic card, is it? My father is buying a new computer solely for this program and I would like to help him make a good choice.

Is it better then to buy "stronger" CPU and "weak" graphic card to have seamless and optimal usage of Magix?

@robert-m

Hi Robert.

From my perspective you are basically correct but it also depends on what is done during editing. As far as encoding speed is concerned it is true that MEP Premium, or the other two versions prefers to use the graphics processor if using an Intel's integrated GPU. But there is also a lot of work that is done by the CPU and the addition of a graphics card if you are adding effects or titles and want them to play smoothly within the editor which makes a smoother playback experience. There will also still be a performance hit depending on the screen size and frame speed of any video imported into the editor. So how 'high end' any component needs to be is down to how the editor is used. It is easy to go overboard and possibly over spec a machine but equally it can be frustrating if the machine is under powered for the users requirements. Also how future proof do you need it to be?

If you see the word ' + Signature' in blue lettering at the base of anyone's comments on this forum and they have filled in the information and kept it up to date you will see a variety of setups of what people are using as a guideline if you click on the word.

I would say for the least hassle, possibly stick with Intel processors and nvidia graphics cards for MEP. Beyond that consider how much you want to pay for possibly smaller increments in performance over price difference of components. I would recommend a minimum of 16GB of ram as well and more than one hard drive. The C: drive doesn't have to be particularly large. I'm only using a 320GB C: drive but if in doubt a 500GB should be enough for all but the hardened end user in my opinion. Other opinions will vary. Maybe a solid state drive for the C: drive but other drives could be mechanical, just make sure they aren't too slow and have relatively large inboard cache.

That is my take on things but as I say other opinions will probably vary.

Bear in mind for my signature I work with 4K MP4 (H264) files at 50fps.

Ray.

@robert-m

Hi

. . . . it seems that Magix does not rely VERY MUCH on graphic card, is it? My father is buying a new computer solely for this program and I would like to help him make a good choice. . . . .

Magix Movie Edit Pro relies heavily on the computer having an Intel processor with an integrated graphics chip. It does not rely on a NVidia or AMD graphics card.

Personally I would buy and Intel processor based computer without a NVidia or AMD graphics card they are not necessary.

So long as the computer has an Intel i5 or i7 processor generation 8 or later - ie the processor name is for example i5-8xxx, you can check with Intel which integrated graphics chip it has - you should be looking for a processor with a HD630 or UHD 630 graphics chip.

HTH

John EB

If saving money is important, I bought a used computer with an 8th Generation Intel i3 to run MEP. For what I do with MEP, it works fine. And from our benchmark results here in this forum, I am only a minute or two behind of the fastest here on a CPU intensive 17 minute encode.

But, obviously, an i5 or i7 would be better.

Here is a link from Amazon US showing the 8th Generation Intel i5 version of the computer I bought.

It is not the fastest computer that one can buy or build, because the 'BIOS' doesn't allow users to overclock the memory. However, it does have a fast NVMe M.2 memory slot.

I bought more RAM for mine, to give a total of 16 GB.

On the down side, the power supply will not support the more powerful external GPU's (more than a 6 pin power cable) if ever you wanted to install one. But, as others have said here, MEP doesn't benefit much from an external GPU. (Although that might change in the future.)