is this price correct on Pro X......495 USD ?

Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 9:26 AM

Magix Video Pro X 495 usd

Vegas Pro Suite 399 usd

Davinci Studio 299 usd

Is this really the right price on Video Pro X? I find this unfair price on Pro X and i am compelled to switch to Davinci if this is the case :(

 

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CubeAce wrote on 6/8/2020, 9:41 AM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson

Wait a while. These products come up on introductory or reduced pricing about every few weeks.

 

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browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 10:32 AM

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Hi,

Since you have MEP, you can always ask Magix for an upgrade price to VPX.

You were asked in another thread why you were considering VPX instead of staying with MEP. Perhaps you can reply to that, as there is much more than just export speed involved.

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Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 12:29 PM

Hello CubeAce andbrowj2 😊

I stayed with MEP after i tried VPX because I had i7 3 generation and MEP is OK when using Proxy but not VPX for some reason. Know i have bought new 4k beast and tried few different editing softwares but maby because I am most used to MEP than i thought "what a heck" I just go for VPX but when I saw the price I just asked my self "can this be right?" and if this is the case there is no way that I'm going to upgrade from MEP to VPX.. I rather go for DV resolve free version or studio version that is 150 usd cheaper . Don't you guys agree to me?

CubeAce wrote on 6/8/2020, 12:58 PM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson

Well as John said, I'd either go for the upgrade or wait until it goes on offer. I can't remember what it costs on offer but it's a lot less than full price. Similar in proportion to the Movie Edit Pro offers. But as John pointed out, the faster export speed is possibly the last reason for wanting it. One better reason is the program has more commercial appeal to more pro based people as well as more tools of a pro nature. In my opinion this is possibly the wrong time to buy anyway with the new version seemingly crashing more.

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browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:02 PM

Don't you guys agree to me?

No. Just ask Magix for a special price. That said, I wouldn't pay the full price. In fact, I got VPX at a special price for upgrading from MEP, so it pays to ask.

No, I wouldn't go to Resolve. If the free version is so great, everyone would go there and the competition would die.

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Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:04 PM

Yes but it really does not answer my question about the price. Is there anyone here that can explain why pro x is so more expensive than example Vegas or Davinci?

Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:10 PM

I just tried out the free version yesterday and made this video there is an notable difference between the free version and the paid one but I it it is a bit learning curve..... For 150-200 usd I'm ready to spend one weekend to master it......it just don't make any sense or do it?

Markus73 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:13 PM

When I go to magix.com, this is what I see:

P.S. I hadn't read the full thread. In case you already have MEP, you won't have to pay the full price for ProX, that's true.

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browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:27 PM

Yes but it really does not answer my question about the price. Is there anyone here that can explain why pro x is so more expensive than example Vegas or Davinci?


Marketing 101.

New version! There are always some people willing to pay a higher price now than wait for a lower price.

It includes proDAD Mercalli V5 Suite | Unlimited full version and Picture Enhanzer - this is costly at 299$ new or $149 for the upgrade.

On the other hand, it seems that NB TitlerPro 6 has disappeared, as has the add-on Erazr, with no additional add-ons being offered with the update.

The Germans are now complaining about the new version. Best to wait.

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browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:31 PM

I confirm what Markus said, 399$ US on US site, not 495$, upgrade is 169$ US. The Canadian price is much higher as a result of exchange rates.

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Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:40 PM

I get this actually 495 usd and if I upgrade I get for 210 usd compared to the website when choosing "upgrade". Anyway the bottom line.... Am I the only one who still feels that expensive? Just be onest, that's possible that I am the only one who thinks that but it is really OK 😁 I'm often not right with thinks just trying to figure out what it is that justify the price tag 😉

Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:42 PM

I confirm what Markus said, 399$ US on US site, not 495$, upgrade is 169$ US. The Canadian price is much higher as a result of exchange rates.

See my screenshot please 😊

Markus73 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:46 PM

What country is this? Norway?

What happens if you choose "international" from the country setting? Can you order and pay in EUR? Strange thing, don't ask me why the prices are so different.

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browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:54 PM

As I indicated in my other thread, I think that the price is steep - too much for me for what I would get. There is really nothing offered that I need or can use, especially with my old computer; nice to have, but not at that price. But that is for the upgrade. I don't do 4K let alone 8K. Mercalli 4 works fine.

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson

Magix has messed up on the pricing for Sweden, it would appear; ask them. Look at the US site where the price is 399$ new, 169 Upgrade.

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CubeAce wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:55 PM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson

I looked at your video (nice footage by the way) and the one thing I asked myself was what have you done there that could not have been done in Movie Edit Pro Premium? VP-X by it's nature would probably take longer to get used to. Some things may be easier to do such as colour grading but also in some respects some things will take longer to get used to. What do you want from VP-X that MEP doesn't provide? The reason VP-X is for its added capabilities but would you use them to their full extent? This is where I think perceived or actual value is measured one product against another.

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shgrude wrote on 6/8/2020, 1:58 PM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson Just change the first path of the URL to us (from No) for price in USD ($) , gb for GBP (£) or de for EUR (€) if you want to pay in Another currency.

https://www.magix.com/no/video/video-pro-x/

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Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 2:20 PM

In X you get double window (extremely nice workflow), infusion 2 that should make 4k as easy as 1080p, LUT and few more things .... There is nothing that I can not do in DV Resolve free version that can be done in Magix.

What I like about magix is the stability, the best one I have ever get to know in editors. And I have tried many of them. The working board is simple but effective and for my opinion the biggest reason that so many don't try the software is the UI interface is outdated..... With the little bit of shakeup and refreshments this product could outsell other editors in same group level

Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 2:23 PM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson Just change the first path of the URL to us (from No) for price in USD ($) , gb for GBP (£) or de for EUR (€) if you want to pay in Another currency.

https://www.magix.com/no/video/video-pro-x/

It's not about the currency, its a bout the price.... The price is in fact sky-high in my opinion.

Markus73 wrote on 6/8/2020, 2:27 PM

It's not about the currency, its a bout the price....

The price also changes a lot when you change currency.

browj2 wrote on 6/8/2020, 2:32 PM

@Brynjar-Gudmundsson @CubeAce

That is your opinion, but the price seems to be competitive with similar programs at the same or similar level.

There are big differences between MEP and VPX. Just look at the comparison table.

Just for a start:

I use these tools extensively.

Add in the other features not in MEP and you will see quite a difference, justifying the price.

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shgrude wrote on 6/8/2020, 3:10 PM

And a big difference, that possible also applies to the competition, is that VPX include license for commercial use. So what ever feature, template, sound, transition etc you use in your video, you can still use your end product in any place without being afraid of violating licens limitations. That is not the case with MEP.

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Brynjar-Gudmundsson wrote on 6/8/2020, 3:45 PM

Thank you everyone for your feedback 👍👍 have a nice evening 😉

Former user wrote on 6/9/2020, 7:45 PM

And a big difference, that possible also applies to the competition, is that VPX include license for commercial use. So what ever feature, template, sound, transition etc you use in your video, you can still use your end product in any place without being afraid of violating licens limitations. That is not the case with MEP.

Correct, but much of that content is the same.

Video Pro X is to Movie Edit Pro what VEGAS Pro is to VEGAS Movie Studio. It's a superset. Movie Edit Pro is a version with some features removed/disabled and aimed at consumers/hobbyists. Video Pro X is more for Prosumers or upstart professionals.

Should be able to upgrade to VPX from MEP, though.

 

Former user wrote on 6/9/2020, 7:58 PM

In X you get double window (extremely nice workflow), infusion 2 that should make 4k as easy as 1080p, LUT and few more things .... There is nothing that I can not do in DV Resolve free version that can be done in Magix.

What I like about magix is the stability, the best one I have ever get to know in editors. And I have tried many of them. The working board is simple but effective and for my opinion the biggest reason that so many don't try the software is the UI interface is outdated..... With the little bit of shakeup and refreshments this product could outsell other editors in same group level

Infusion 1 could barely play that footage in real time, and Infusion 2 seems nice (from the marketing, as did Infusion 1)... but only because it implements GPU Hardware Decoding for all platforms. This only matters if you are editing H.264/HEVC footage, though, and it's still not going to be as smooth as if you had transcoded that footage to DNxHR/ProRes/Cineform and decoded that with the CPU.

I can go on about how unusable low framerate HEVC footage off smartphones (like iPhone 11 Pro, Galaxy Note 9/10, etc.) is out of the phone, but I think most people who look at how much motion blur, artifacting, etc. is in that footage won't need me to tell them..

Mention less about what things "should" do, and more what things "actually" do. The marketing and reality of Infusion 1 were definitely not "of one accord." Anyone caring about this should absolutely try a trial version before purchasing.

TL;DR: GPU decoding only works for compressed CODECs, but I guess that's probably how most people use this NLE.

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As for the UI, it's less outdated and more inefficient. Most people who are willing to spend $400 on an NLE aren't going to want to use an NLE that is this mouse bound. One of the biggest issues many prosumers and professionals had with Final Cut Pro X was how mouse bound the UX felt. MAGIX Products tend to be based around mouse modes. Many people don't like to work this way. It's slower than rapid-fire keyboard shortcut operation.

Additionally, the Framework that MAGIX users for their application UIs is sluggish. This tends to be exacerbated by HiDPI displays. This may have been addressed, though it is a huge issue with Samplitude Pro's UI. Works fine on a 1080p display, but going to 1440p and esp. UHD can make it feel unusably sluggish with decently sized projects loaded (as the UI Framework is not efficient in drawing these things).

Honestly think they should replace MEP with VEGAS Movie Studio and look into transitioning users over to VEGAS Pro off of Video Pro X. The two products compete, and one is significantly better than the other... There is no point in keeping and developing both of them. Move those resources over to other products which can use more investment to bring them up to par with competitors (like Samplitude Pro, for example).

Same with Music Maker and ACID. I don't see a point in those two product lines coexisting, personally.