Voice Over Recording Cuts Off at Forty Three Seconds

CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/22/2021, 10:42 AM

I have a three minute clip

I click on an empty track

I choose

File
 |
 |
 |
 +-----> Record
           |
           |
           |
           +----> Microphone

I start recording

I begin speaking

All goes well; even sounds good

And then

Forty Three seconds later, I can record no more.

He won't let me go any further.

Huh ?

Comments

CubeAce wrote on 9/23/2021, 4:36 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi Clint.

I had never used this part of the program and have just tried it.

I never realized just how useful this could be for tutorials. Thank you for pointing this feature out.

I tried this using a two minute video clip to talk alongside, and sad to say I can't find a fault with it. It recorded the entire length.

Are you sure you have the project markers set for the entire length you want to record to?

A few screen grabs using 'Print Screen' on your keyboard and saving in Windows Paint to upload here using the blue upload symbol above that appears when you reply, to upload images showing 'The project timeline,' 'The settings in the program settings for GPU usage', and 'audio settings' as well as how you set up the audio recording would be really useful.

Also a full system spec of your machine in your signature would also help a lot.

Thanks.

Ray.

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ericlnz wrote on 9/23/2021, 5:19 AM

A few screen grabs using 'Print Screen' on your keyboard and saving in Windows Paint

It's much easier to use the Windows Snipping Tool. Just drag it around the area and save. You can also highlight before saving. Much better than fiddling with Windows Paint, at least I find it so.

 

CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/23/2021, 6:23 AM

@CubeAce

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Are you sure you have the project markers set for the entire length you want to record to?

 

Clueless Newbee syndrome here; I don't have that phrase "project markers" in my vocabulary at the moment.

Am opening the PDF Manual as I type this...

 

CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/23/2021, 7:18 AM

Spent ten minutes with the PDF Manual

Adobe tells me to look at page 156

I see phrases like

  • Project Markers
  • Chapter Markers
  • Snap Markers
  • Transients

I'm trying to find the relationship between any of those phrases and the length of my VoiceOver track.

For this moment, I'm going to guess that I somehow put a "Marker" of some sort at the 43 second position

Still scratching my head.

browj2 wrote on 9/23/2021, 7:28 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi Clint,

I have many 2 to 3 second audio recordings that were supposed to be longer.

There are 2 things to watch for.

1. If a range is set somewhere, anywhere, on the timeline, the maximum audio recording time will be the length of the range. This is most annoying as often a short range is set by making a transition. So, before recording, double-click the range bar (blue) to remove it, or set a range for the maximum duration that you want the recording to be.

2. On the recording screen, if "Play while recording" is checked, then you need something on the timeline to play. If there is no material or if the playback marker gets to the end of the material, your recording will automatically stop.

3. Not a problem, but you may want to watch and adjust where the recordings go and note the filenames. By default, they will be under the path set for "Recordings" in the Program Settings, Folders tab. I have not, so I have a potential file management problem as all of my recording are in the same place. Note that the filename will be the Movie name (not the Project name unless the same) with - 000x appended.

I suggest that you watch my tutorials below to see many of the features of the program. Most are lightly covered for brevity.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

Project Markers have nothing to do with it.

I see that you still haven't watched my tutorials on Everything Audio. I recorded all of the narration for my tutorials directly into MEP/VPX.

Recording audio in MEP is in the first one:

John CB

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CubeAce wrote on 9/23/2021, 7:43 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi Clint.

Project markers.

The blue line indicates how much of the project has been selected for use.

Ray.

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browj2 wrote on 9/23/2021, 7:53 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

Those are the In and Out points of a Range, not Project Markers. Project Markers are not the same but simply markers to which you add a name. They do not affect recording or playback, but are just visual points for the user.

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browj2 wrote on 9/23/2021, 8:12 AM

@CubeAce

Here is an illustration showing both a range and Project Markers. Project Markers are automatically numbered.

You can jump to a particular Project Marker using Ctrl+1 to 0 - up to 10 PMs where 0 is 10. Otherwise you can use Cttl+Shift+PgDn or PgUp to move the playback marker to the next/previous PM.

Look what is under Edit, Markers and you see the various ones available: Project Markers, Snap Markers, Chapter Markers and Range Start and End. Under Edit, Move View, you'll see the various ways to jump to them.

@CLINT-DANBURY

Note the range in the image is 7s4f, so if my audio recording is longer, it will be cut off just after 7s. It just doesn't tell you this.

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CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/23/2021, 9:00 AM

Hey guys, thanks for the info.

I have my homework, don't I !

Anyway, I did this with the menus...

EDIT
 |
 |
 |
 +-----> MARKERS
           |
           |
           |
           +----> (A Bunch of Deletes)

 

With no real knowledge of what I was deleting, but evidently one of those "Delet All ..such..and..so.." operations did the trick. I can now do a VoiceOver which is longer than my clip

So, duh

Whatever

Works now

browj2 wrote on 9/23/2021, 9:17 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi Clint,

I thought that I had explained it all in my first post. Please look again.

To point 2 - add that if "Play while recording" is not checked, you can record beyond the end of any other material on the timeline, or even if there is no material. However, if a range is set, then, as far as I can recall, the range will take precedence.

There was no need to remove all markers, just the range, as I pointed out.

John CB

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CubeAce wrote on 9/23/2021, 10:36 AM

@browj2

Hi John.

My nomenclature is corrected. I will remember they are range markers from now on but that is what I was referring to. Thank you for the correction.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 9/23/2021, 12:34 PM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi

. . . . I have my homework, don't I ! . . . .

I assume that you are a new user to Movie Edit Pro (MEP) and have come from a different video editing program.

As has been mentioned before @browj2 has created a whole series of beginner and more advanced tutorials on the use of MEP, a complete list is here, this also includes some more advanced procedures, although it refers to Movie Studio 18, which is a variant of MEP, the tutorials are made with MEP.

For posting a sequence of menu selections use one of the abbreviated forms in bold, or italics, as shown below:

Edit, Markers, Delete project markers or Edit > Markers > Delete project markers

HTH

John EB
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CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/30/2021, 8:06 AM
 

 

@browj2

All went well.

Started on my second project.

Thought I had this one aced; then...

Just ran into roadblock # 2 which you explained (and of course I missed on first reading)...

2. ....... If there is no material or if the playback marker gets to the end of the material, your recording will automatically stop.

 

I only had a little bit (less than a minute) of material on the time line.

Sure enough, I had another mystery surprise time limit imposed on me; just as you had pointed out.

Would this fix my problem ?...

EDIT  >   EDIT RANGE   >  INSERT BLANK SPACE    

I went poking around with the menus and options, which is where I found that.

Looking in the PDF file manual, I see that phrase mentioned once, with no further info on how to implement it. Do these tutorials contain an example of how to use that ?

But once again; The big question is: Would this fix my problem ?

CLINT-DANBURY wrote on 9/30/2021, 8:08 AM

@johnebaker

Hope I got the syntax right this time; thanks for advising;

Brain Level Zero over here. Your advice is helpful and always invited.

CubeAce wrote on 10/1/2021, 10:30 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi Clint.

I'm not sure whether you mean the blank spaces are between the beginning and end or at the beginning or end.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 10/1/2021, 11:00 AM

@CLINT-DANBURY

Hi

. . . . Edit >   Edit range   >  Insert blank space  . . . .

This does not do what you want.

This command inserts a blank space on track 1 where a range is selected, if there is an object in that range it will be split and the blank space inserted as shown below and all objects on all tracks will be moved to the right - not shown in the clip below.

When narrating or using text to explain something about an action on the screen for a tutorial I use the Insert still image at the playback marker option, then adjust the length of the inserted image to lengthen the run time as required. You can see this in use in this tutorial - there is no audio, the pause are for the viewer to be able to read the text.

HTH

John EB

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