@johnebaker
@CubeAce

Okay, I did it but I have no idea if I did it right. I dont even know what its doing. Is there some kind of finished download I am supposed to send or did I do it all correctly?

Also, I did mess around with the audio cleaning settings but no change. And I also unticked the box that you told me to untick, Ray.
I am going to update windows now.



 

clicking "download and install"
and ill update soon!

@Jordin-Mayo

Hi Jordin.

You do not need the G-force Experience nor the game drivers. Where the game driver appears in the bottom box, if you open that one you should see the Studio driver option. That's the one you need.

@CubeAce

Okay, all updated, should I do any of these optional updates??

And alright, I will try again.

@CubeAce
@johnebaker
I actually used the game ready drivers because John recommended using that one if I was using the computer for gaming. Which my husband does use this computer to play his games. So do I still try it again with the Studio drivers, or keep it as is?

@Jordin-Mayo

Hi.

Game drivers and studio drivers are needed if you do both. Game drivers are not used for video editing.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Game drivers and studio drivers are needed if you do both . . . .

You can only have one or the other driver installed at any one time.

There are many sites that appear to suggest you can have both installed at once, however this not the reality - each time you change from Gaming to Studio drivers you are re-installing the appropriate driver.

Hence my recommendation to @Jordin-Mayo to install the gaming drivers if the PC is used for gaming, they will work with programs such as VPX, they are just not so efficient as the Studio drivers which are not suitable for gaming.

See sections 4 and 6 here.

John EB

@Jordin-Mayo @johnebaker

Hi John.

Thanks for the additional information I also wasn't aware of the C: drive limitation either so thank you for that.

I don't game at all so wasn't aware that installing a Studio driver would remove the gaming driver. I know the gaming driver is not as good as the Studio driver. When I had it installed a long time ago I wasn't aware of any improvement at all. All I tend to do with my computer is photo, audio and video editing.

So OK. Stay with the gaming drivers for now until remove all other options. Yes?

Hi Jordin.

If you have already swapped the driver to a Studio driver and it hasn't helped then it would seem you may as well use the Game ready driver. There are still a couple of things left to try.

Ray.

@CubeAce I switched it over to Studio driver, just to see if that would help. Unfortunately not.

@Jordin-Mayo

Hi Jordin.

Sorry to hear that.

Last thing I can think to try I'm afraid.

Go to settings / Display and go to bottom of that page. Select Graphics settings and make sure Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling is switched on. Underneath open the Browse button and add Magix Video Pro X to the 'Choose an app to set preference'.

It should open local disk C: Go to 'Program files' / Magix / Video Pro X / 11/ and scroll down to the Video_Pro_x.exe file and click on the file and press Add. Then select 'Let windows decide'.

It should look something like this.

If that does not work it could be happening if you are opening the same project each time. It could be corrupted by now. Try doing a J cut with the same clips but with a new project .

If it is still causing problems can I have a zoomed in look at the timeline editor where the J cut is being made please.

Fingers crossed.

Ray.

@Jordin-Mayo

Hi

Does the audio issue appear if you start a new project and load the video clip(s) and set transitions to crossfade, do not add any other effects?

John EB

I have also been getting static on a project I'm working on at the moment. If you view the 2 images below - image static2a produces no interference but static2b does. The 2 segments that crossover are from the same video file. I do not have the same problem if the segments are from different video files.

static2a

static2b

Here is a link for the 2 video's.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhJeyx-2x07HgeRj4pwqQdf6mJj0kQ?e=HEHf2h

Don

@dond10

Hi Don

The problem is with the file 2b - there is a major glitch in the file at 2s 17 fr.

If I scrub through both files the 'glitching' is there at a lower level except for the point above in 2b.

If I am not mistaken the glitching is what happens when the Copy Protection / DRM (Digital Rights Management) protection on the original source video has been 'broken'.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John

But I don't understand what the "Copy Protection / DRM (Digital Rights Management)" has to do with this.

The footage I've used has been screen grabbed, so as far as I know "Copy Protection / DRM (Digital Rights Management)" should not be there.

The section at 2s 17fr is the point that the crossover starts in file 2b.

Don

@dond10

Hi Don

. . . . The footage I've used has been screen grabbed . . . .

What was the source and which software or hardware device did you use to 'grab' the clip?

Are files 2a and 2b the original 'grabbed video' or an export from VPX?

Videos such as the one you have 'grabbed' are usually copy protected to protect the creators intellectual property (copyrights) - there are several options are available to prevent/spoil copying/grabbing of the video.

John EB

@johnebaker

Files 2a & b are export from vpx

Don

@CubeAce

did not work.



@johnebaker
I did start a new project, and I also tried a crossfade like you recommended, still made the sound.

This is interesting too,

When I don't cross the clips at all, it makes a click if I put the second clip above.
 But if I put the second clip below, then it does not click.

@Jordin-Mayo

Thank you Jordin.

I have been awaiting your result.

I think I have a rough idea of what is happening now but have no idea as why it happens on your machine but not mine. I may also have a few solutions although none are elegant and is still speculation on my part as I can't replicate your problem. Because of that it has become a bit of a logic problem for me. Your last two results have thrown a bit of a spanner (wrench) in the works as I would have thought that maybe track placement would not make a difference.

What I think is going on. Please bear with me.

Audio in a video editing package is handled in a much different way to how it is handled in a dedicated audio editing program. In an audio editing program when you scroll forwards or backwards the files are read forwards or backwards as the respective speed of the scroll. So you will hear speech backwards. It is read waveform by waveform.

Audio in a video editing package is delivered in small blocks or 'packages'. They are delivered in sync with each frame. So whether you scroll forwards or backwards each 'block' is heard only forwards. Even if each block is now being delivered in reverse. So you get lots of forward sounds being played back in reverse order.

Now comes what I'm hearing on your 'J' cuts.

I am hearing two streams interleaved with each other instead of one being cut off. The following is not exact in placement but a rough approximation.

That is what I am hearing when playing your supplied clips slowed down played on a continuous loop. It is not 'mixed' but played abruptly as parts of words, delivered in blocks of sound. First from one stream and then the next stream. There should be no audio at that point from the second stream as it should have been 'cut'.

Listen out for that sequence each time the video gets to the half way playback stage. It is looped several times.

I think this may be happening because for whatever reason the video clip (if it is one video being cut and re-positioned) is losing the sync with the audio somewhere along the line. It could be something to do with CPU clock cycles and which bit is being told when to go is getting out of order or something else. I don't know the cause, only the result.

One way around this would be to record shorter clips so each file is read separately and not being asked to repeat itself in a different position. Another way would be to copy and paste the file to another folder and then change it's name by adding say V2 to the end of its name or number and using both clips to edit back and forth from. That may or may not work.

I think this may be an incompatibility bug with AMD architecture that I wasn't willing to say that too early for fear of people saying I'm biased toward both Intel and nvidia on but once again, those of us sticking to Intel with nvidia based machines can't replicate this problem.

Once again I could be very wrong about everything and hope I am but for now that is all I can think of.

Awaiting anyone else's thoughts on the subject.

Ray.

@CubeAce
 So after reading your message, I think you're right!! I did a test. I took 2 separately recorded clips and did a J cut and I did not have the clicking sound. Then I took just one of the recorded clips, split it into 2, and then did a J cut and it did make a clicking sound. I tried it a couple different times with different clips, same result. So it seems that I can crossover two clips that were recorded separately, but I cannot cross over the same recorded clip cut into 2. Wow. Is there a fix for this that doesn't involve me having to record every single line separately? what a headache that would be.
 

@Jordin-Mayo

Hi

Looking at the images you have posted above:

Image 1 - this is not a J cut - you have 2 overlapping audio tracks which will play the audio from both.

A J cut must have both videos and audio on the same tracks as shown in @browj2 post here, your image shows they are, on tracks1 & 2 for clip 1 and 3 & 4 for clip 2.

The alternative with the video and audio arranged as in your image should look like this

Clip 1 audio ends before the video, clip 2 audio starts before the video

. . . . I also tried a crossfade like you recommended, still made the sound . . . .

Did the crossfade look like this

or this

Note the Fade out on clip 1 and Fade in on clip 2 and they overlap.

Why in image 2 and 3 the transposition of the second clip is a mystery - I suspect you may have a ghost clip which we have seen before - try the following:

1. Select File, Manage project, Export movie file, Magix movie file
2. Name the file and save it.
3. Start a new project
4. Select File, Manage project, Import movie file, Magix movie file
5. Locate the file you saved in 2 and import it
6. Save the project with a new name and then test it.

John EB

@johnebaker @Jordin-Mayo @dond10

Hi Jordin.

John is correct in saying your image is not showing a 'J' cut but rather two overlapping sound tracks.

If John's suggestion does not clear this up (and I think I'm correct in thinking you had set up a new project) then the problem remains.

As with your example, the two sounds should be mixed together fluidly but instead come out as a staccato mix of the two as separated sound streams.

This should not happen and indeed does not happen on my or Johns systems. This may well be down to a bit of code that is not being processed correctly by either the AMD processor or in Dond's case, his graphics card. Again this is a guess and could be completely wrong, I'm not programmer, just an old ex sound engineer from pre-digital days.

It is generally accepted though that takes should be just that. Individual takes. I have a stop start remote for my camera I can use for such a purpose. But then again my system is coping and so is Johns. You may get away with relatively short clips of 30 seconds or so if you are chopping them up a lot but big gaps for the system to search back and forth for are giving your system problems.

I think best practice would be to record individual segments to put together. Second method that may not work is to copy the file and rename it in another folder and use the two side by side to edit from first one, then the other to see if it works.

The very best way would be to work from a script. Place it on a stand next to, and level with the camera.

The last suggestion would be to contact Magix and report it as a suspected bug which personally I think it is but specific to AMD hardware. AMD and Intel processors handle blocks of information slightly differently and I'm suspecting the problem lies somewhere in that region although I have no real proof of that. All I can say with confidence is there is a problem and is not anyone's imagination or to my knowledge been reported before.

You can link this thread to your report for them to look at.

Ray.

@johnebaker Yes thats what my crossfade looked like (the first example you showed).
I tried what you said with the original movie I sent you in dropbox. I'm a little confused as to if I did it correctly.
I don't understand what you mean by, "test it". What am I testing exactly? Am I trying to put two different exports together onto one movie?
The way you told me to export it doesn't seem to actually create one file, but just an open project. I'm sorry, I just don't understand.