Just a thought reading the last few posts, when you made your backup folder from the old PC, did you make it to a new backup folder on the old PC or did you make it to an external drive that you then connected to the new PC?

I am asking simply because I wondered if you checked to see if the backup project ran ok on the old computer from it's internal drive before transferring it to the new computer's internal drive.

Roger

No, I chose the external drive for the backup folder. Indeed, that is precisely what is happening now... I remain puzzled by the failure of the new PC to perform better. Could it all have been caused by the system using the Nvidia graphics card? I am reluctant to remove it as I intend to return the thing. Wouldn't the extra RAM and processing power be enough to make a difference? Editing with the new PC is a nightmare. I reinstalled VPX, but it helped not a not. Am thinking of factory-sealed the PC.

No, I chose the external drive for the backup folder. Indeed, that is precisely what is happening now... I remain puzzled by the failure of the new PC to perform better. Could it all have been caused by the system using the Nvidia graphics card? I am reluctant to remove it as I intend to return the thing. Wouldn't the extra RAM and processing power be enough to make a difference? Editing with the new PC is a nightmare. I reinstalled VPX, but it helped not a not. Am thinking of factory-sealed the PC.

OK that's interesting because whenever I make a backup file I always make it on the internal drive of the system I am working on, test it, then transfer it to an external drive for storage or in your case using on the other PC. I would never run it from the external drive but would put it onto the internal drive of the PC I am going to use. It removes potential bottle necks and gives you the fastest access speed.

As regards the graphics card, I can only relate my own experience of my PC only recognising the Intel graphics once I had removed the card. Speed was then considerably increased.

Roger

Hmmm... not sure that previous post was my finest! Anyway, completed the backup procedure, opened VPX on New PC, opened project, and was asked if I wanted to create proxy files. I said yes. Hours later, it has only reached 54 per cent. Now, I have followed all advice... it can't be me!

OK, let's forget all that has been said before and just look at what is happening now.

Your new computer is faster than my main one so there is no reason why it should be so slow unless there is something different in the procedures that we are both following. To establish some facts, the footage you are using was shot in 4K so I am assuming somewhere around 100-120mbs. What I would like you to do, is take a few minutes out, to take a short clip of your original from camera 4K footage, make sure it is on the internal hard drive of the new PC, then load it into a new project, having made sure that the new project settings are appropriate to the requirements of the project. I normally set mine to HD pal settings. Once the original captured footage is on the timeline, simply set up a short range, maybe a minute or two and export it to a folder on the internal drive at the same settings that you are going to be using for your final project. See how long it takes to export it, then get back with the export time in relation to the length of the clip. On my system, exporting 4K to 1920 x1080 25p pal will take about a third of the clip length, so one minute of footage will take about 20 seconds. We then have a control to work out where the problems are coming from.

Going back to your previous post, can you just clarify that ALL of the files that you are using are on the new PC internal drive in the project folder and that they include all the original footage as captured in the camera. In all the years I have used Magix programmes and now working constantly in 4K, I have never needed to work from proxy files, so that gives me some concerns. When I first tried 4K on my old system, which stuttered on 4K, I experimented with making up a proxy file and it took so long that I stopped it and continued with the original footage. So I need to understand why you are using proxy files on a PC that should be considerably faster than my new one.

Sorry to be a pain, but getting back to basics is the only way to solve it with you.

Roger

I have been away from the forum preparing for Monday night's premiere of our movie. To cut a long story short, all has been going reasonably well... until now. I was about to burn the final version onto Blu-Ray. I have a previously-burned version which will do if necessary; but today's one features some nice improvements. So I followed the same steps which have been working fine, set the system to burn... and a series of messages like the one attached here have appeared..

I should say that I have burned several blu-ray discs this week, successfully, and in an attempt to secure continuity have left the PC switched on. So where this is coming from beats me. Any thoughts, guys?

Just looking at the project in editing mode... the same error messages are appearing, and refer to audio files which are present in the timeline and, so far, in the project folder. but which are silent.

Hi Mark,

It looks like something is wrong with at least that wav file. Try checking it with another program or by importing it into a new project.

John CB

It's a load of them, John. Sound clips which have sat happily in the project for ages are visible, yet silent. I am having to go through the entire project locating and replacing them.

I have had something similar on a big project with lots of added audio clips. None of the audio would play although it looked perfectly normal on the time line and was previously fine. I discovered that by soloing every track that had something on, it would all play ok. So just try switching on all the active track solo buttons so they all show green and try that. I did find that on exporting all was ok with or without the solo buttons, but without them the audio was silent in preview. Try exporting a short clip to mp4 from your timeline before burning a full BD.

It may be that Magix is struggling with the ram memory on occasion for previews. Once I had finally exported my whole timeline, the preview then played fine, presumably because it was then all pre rendered.

Roger

Burned the Blu-Ray and just watched it... seems you are right again, Roget. All is as expected, apart from a rogue sound effect creeping in four times. Watched the movie all the way through and, yet again, spotted several little issues requiring tweaking. With two days to go, I might as well have the film as near-perfect as I can!

By the way... can anyone answer twi track-related questions? I have searched the manual, but no joy.

1: If I want to delete an entire track in my timeline, is there a way of doing so?

2: Can I move an entire track up or down? e.g. if I want track four to be track 2, is this achievable?

Hi Mark.

The only way I know to be able to make either of your changes is to first select everything on that track (make sure you're in single object mouse mode) by holding down the Shift key, clicking on the first object on the track and then on the last object. That should highlight/select them all, then simply hit the Delete key or hold down the left mouse button and drag the track carefully to where you want it to now be. I say carefully because as you drag it over other tracks in between where it was and where you now want it to be, it will seem to "add itself" to those tracks, creating a whole lot of crossfades! If you release the mouse button before the track is exactly where you want it now to be it will stay on whichever track is directly under your mouse, with all those crossfades still in place!

HTH

Jeff

Edit, to add: I would always make sure I had saved the complete project before attempting either of these quite substantial changes. That way, if anything does go wrong, the whole project from before the "changes" can easily be reloaded.

Thanks Jeff. Gonna take all of your advice.

Hi Mark,

Been filming a wedding all day so just got in. You can do as Jeff said, although to delete all of one track, I find it easier to select single track mouse mode rather than single object. That's the one to the right of the single object icon. While holding down the left mouse button, everything on that track to the right of the mouse click will turn yellow, then still holding the mouse button down, press delete on the keyboard and the whole track will disappear.

As Jeff said though, save first just in case.

Roger

Forgot to say that if you want to move a track up or down, go to the left of the time line and you will see + buttons by each track. Clicking on that on any track will add a new blank one above that track. You can then select the single track mouse for the track you want to move to the blank one and simply drag it up (or down)

Roger

@MCK

I may have pointed you to my tutorials on Basic Editing in MEP in which I explain about the various mouse modes and how to use them, and also using the various import modes. The important things to note are consequences on other objects on the same track and/or on other tracks that can be caused by using some of the mouse mode and import features. You may want to review these as I find your question about moving objects very basic.

The + button in the track header mentioned by Roger is new in both VPX and MEP.

You can delete everything on a track, as pointed out, but you cannot delete a track. If you have objects on tracks 1, 2 and 4, then the buttons in the track header (left side of the track) do not appear, thus you know that the track is empty. You cannot delete this track and it causes no problems to your project, so just leave it. You may want to put something on it later.

Before doing anything new, I suggest that you practice on a test project first. Your project seems to be very large and complicated and you risk making a huge mess if you do something that you don't fully understand. You may not even notice the impact until you have exported or burned your project. So tread carefully.

Good luck with your screening!

John CB

I am battling against the clock and felt that this forum was the perfect place to get some emergency expert advice. All of this might well be basic to you, but it isn't to me. I never expected our project to get this far and this big, and have repeatedly found myself out of my depth technically. Without this forum, the film would have imploded a long time ago. I do not pretend to be an expert... I'm probably somewhat short of 'beginner'. But despite this - and thanks to this forum - tomorrow evening sees the premiere of our 90-minute festive family comedy, which we hope will raise funds for charity and raise awareness of autism. Nothing basic about that.

I wish you every success with the screening and your very worthy project. If we have helped you to get it to completion, then then that justifies the whole point of a forum like this. Don't forget to let us know how it is received. 😊

Roger

I made some changes to the film, then started the burning procedure. I got a message saying "Should the existing file be used for the film?". Failing to find a "no thanks" choice, I selected one of the encoding options, with the result that we cannot play the resulting Blu-Ray as it is "imcompatible".

I want to try again, and the same message has resurfaced. Presumably I do not want to use the existing file as it has been changed? But then which option do I choose? ENCODE ALL - ENCODE - USE - USE ALL- CANCEL

Encode all

Thanks. Trying that right now.