When I import mov files into Movie Edit Pro Premium there is no audio although this plays perfectly well in other programs. I notice that mov files are only listed as importable. Is this causing the problem.
@Former user Not a good idea if the 3rd party program is going to re-encode, and especially if @jolyonhc can import the video OK. Any re-encode reduced quality.
@jolyonhc could you install Mediainfo then open one of your MOVs in it. When opened, choose View>Text, then copy and paste all that text into a post here. The issue appears to be that MEP can't read the audio codec.
Also, what version of MEP do you have? Help>About
What is the source of the MOVs eg iphone? It would help if you could upload a short one to a file-sharing site so we can take a look at it.
MEP Premium 2022. The mov file like several I have of family was taken on a Kodak 360 camera. I don't seem to have access to a sharing site, not something I do apart from sending by email.
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Mediainfo wants more money than I'm prepared to pay so perhaps I'll leave this. It's not of great importance to me, but thank you for your interest.
I don't know.
I have the report but how do I post it?
I'll try this. It might work
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Complete name : P:\Flash drive July\2009-05-03\MOV files\1675.MOV
Format : QuickTime
Format/Info : Original Apple specifications
File size : 1.59 MiB
Duration : 3 s 991 ms
Overall bit rate : 3 350 kb/s
Movie_More : EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY KODAK C360 ZOOM DIGITAL CAMERA
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
Origin : Digital Camera
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Simple@L1
Format settings : BVOP
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : mp4v-20
Duration : 3 s 991 ms
Bit rate : 3 217 kb/s
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.056 FPS
Color space : YUV
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.435
Stream size : 1.53 MiB (96%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
Audio
ID : 2
Format : ADPCM
Format profile : U-Law
Codec ID : ulaw
Duration : 3 s 991 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Sampling rate : 16.0 kHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 62.4 KiB (4%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-05 16:09:51
@jolyonhc Excellent!
The problem will probably be with the 16kHz audio. The audio gurus tell us that MEP won't handle that; 48kHz is preferred.
Try posting that video onto the forum: Use the blue Up icon (next to the smilee) to attach it. I'd like to try a easy audio conversion method.
Hi Al.
As far as I'm aware you can't attach a video file using that method. To get an unaltered video clip it would have to be from either a file sharing site (Dropbox or similar) or using wetransfer with an open link posted here to download.
I agree though that the ADPCM ulaw codec was really first made for a digital phone system as an audio carrier and not meant for video although at that time there may not have been a lot of alternatives. If I can find my old Kodak Z710 camera and it still has a working memory card I may be able to produce a file to test if it has the same encoding format. Will have a look around.
Ray.
Hi all.
Just checked the Kodak Z710 and although the picture size is the same the recordings are not the same file formats. Although it still records in the mov format it is recording as motion JPEG at 30fps and has a 41.1kHz audio output. The camera must be a newer model than the Kodak model @jolyonhc has.
Ray.
The picture I opened in Mediainfo was taken in 2007 and my camera was fairly old then, so I suspect we are looking at an 'antique' system. I also treat most social media with a fair amount of distrust. However, I do use Messenger to talk to my granddaughter. Would a post to there work.
Hi.
Unfortunately no as any posting to a social media site will mean the video will have been re-encoded for upload.
I have had one thought though. We (other users including myself keep repeating that MEP and VPX do not like odd audio sample and bit rates and yet when I look at the the windows export options I see a lot sample rates and bit depths to export to.
So what gives? Could it be the rendering option chosen? If so it may be worth trying the alternative in the Program settings.
It may be worth trying.
Ray.
My program is MEP Premium 2022 Version 21.0.1.92 (UDP3). It also apparently has a UG code 8463KAI. I don't know if this helps but it is listed in the about dialogue. This is a registered copy bought from MAGIX.
As a test I imported the original mov file into the Nero video editor (latest version) and it worked perfectly. My problem with Nero is that unlike MEP it doesn't show individual frame pics in the time line so very precise editing is a bit of a gamble. This is OK for some of the work I do but I prefer to see the actual frames in the time line so I know where I am. Earlier versions of MEP like even 2021 obviously took the audio import OK.
Hi. The other thing I notice about the file is the location.
Complete name : P:\Flash drive July\2009-05-03\MOV files\1675.MOV
That may be a problem if the file can't be read fast enough via MEP. Ideally this file should be on a fast internal or USB 3 capable device.
Ray.
Flash drive July is only the folder name on my external drive. These files are no longer on a flash drive.