Think of me

carpter1958 wrote on 12/2/2009, 4:01 PM
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This is my disabled daughter(as am I) who at the time we recorded this had never had a voice lesson, She now is doing things in Opera at her college that her profesors say people who have been ddoing this as pros for 30 years can't do. After only 2 semesters of training she cna sight read ( whatever that is) in 6 languages and also is an award winning instument player 7 instruments so far. I don't know much about music but they have told me her octive range now is off the chart and unbelievable. We recorded this in our living room using magix music maker 2004. It was our first and so far only attempt at doing so I haven't been able to get my good microphone to work again on this woodburning computer. So please forgive the quality as I have no experience or training at this and am just learning. I also did a music video of sorts, at least I did my best. It is also posted on Magix site. thanks for listening and your input would be very welcome. Thanks enjoy as I have.   Scott and Sheena

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Former user wrote on 12/2/2009, 4:30 PM
an impressive voice, that's right, but: nothing special in my opinion. What i mean is: the feeling's missing. There are singers who've got that 'something' that sends shivers 'cross my good old spine or makes the hairs on my arms stand up. They don't need to play a thousand instruments or have an octave range as wide as the Golden Gate Bridge. Examples are: Bob Dylan, Brian Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Carl Wilson, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Willy de Ville, Neil Young...to name just a few, i mean: just a few. There must be something in a good singer's voice to really capture the audience's attention, don't ask me what it is. Some have it and some don't, that's the truth. Your daughter's got a great voice, but in my ears, it sounds clinical and sterile. There's no feeling behind this, nothing that makes me sit up and say "WOW!". I know, that's bad news for you, but i just tried to be honest. And by the way: it's a mistake to tell the people in this community that you try to "show off" with your daughter's abilities. Many people may misunderstand this and ignore your work because they think that it's not right to "show off" with your kid's musical genius.
Frantzi wrote on 12/2/2009, 4:35 PM
Welcome to the Community...

The voice is great...
Your recording (as you wrote) unfortunately not...
Perhaps it´s possible that you can post a recording from one of her lessons at the college?
Good luck for her (and for you too)
from me 5* for your daugther...
Best regards
Franz
carpter1958 wrote on 12/2/2009, 5:06 PM
Its evident that mr exile has not read my profile and history. Also I can tell by his choice of singers he mentioned  that its eeevident that he has never listened to classical or Opera singers and as I pointed out, this was before any type of instruction in the proper technics of voice training. By the way real musicians do appreciate and measure a persons range of octives and attention to technical details as the hallmark of a real vocalist ,unlike most pop or rock musicians who' main talent is how loud they can scream. The true measure of a real vocalist and singer is by the way a persons abilities to be technical and to have a true range of octives, unlike pop singers which she definitly isn't in that class. I do appreciate though your comments. With exception to the right of a father to brag about a daughters intelligence and accomplishments. Very few people have accomplished what she has given her disabilities and her unfortunate meger life. She has even been comapred recently by several proffesional Opera singers to Charlotte Chuch the young Opera star from England ,whom my daughter loved when she was much younger.  Thanks though  I don't mean to come off as insultive and I apologise if taken that way.   But as pointed out before we both are begining amatuers and look forward to learning from the Magix community.
Former user wrote on 12/2/2009, 5:27 PM
I don' t think that any singer's abilities (rock, opera, whatever) should be judged in a technical way. That's all wrong. You can decorate the walls at your home with a thousand diplomas and still don't have that something that people like. Music is all about feel and emotion, not about technique. And don't be so arrogant to tell me that rock or pop singers are measured by the way they 'scream' . I've got the impression that even some opera singers are not too far away from that...As you can tell: i've also listened to classic and opera music and there where several voices that touched me deep in my heart. I'm no dumb rockhead that only sticks to his kind of stuff. 
B.t.w. : I read your profile, i really did.
carpter1958 wrote on 12/3/2009, 12:29 AM
Oh well considering the source I can surmize about the coments made by mr "exile" did not take into cosideration that she is a beginner and believe me, when shes not singing into a small headset microphone has all the emotion of Muddy Waters,but as I said previously I didn't mean any offense but you didn't seem to  get that part. As far as being arogant? Any and I mean any real musician that is honest and not guided by emotion alone would realize that Bob Dylan, was in my opinion was almost unequaled as a song writer.
 But as far as his actual voice goes it is very close to someone who is on fire and trying to sing, even Willy Nelson whom I also loved and saw in concert, would most likely tell you himself that he had his OWN voice and very far from actually what would be considered a good voice. He would most likely tell you that he loved Bing Crosby, Mel Torme,Pavorate(? spelliing) even  Elvis himself strived for technical perfection. 
    Beyonce and Alecia Keys, Nelly Fratata, Taylor Swift, Reba McEntire, Shania Twain, Garth Brooks you name it , they all strived for technical excellence first then added thier soul and emotion into what ever they did.
  I wouldnt hesitate to say that while any of them are in the recording studio that the technical aspect is first and foremost in thier minds. Yes they inject thier emotions and souls into thier work to try and achive such perfection.
 But the technical aspect goes absolutely first and foremost when it comes to any opera singer. It has nothing to do with a wall full of diplomas, that just means a person is so dedicated that they want to learn the rights and wrongs and the small nuances about music.
   Virtually every succsesfull artist has a voice coach even Elvis.They were employed to get the technical aspect right. Otherwise nothing would seperate them from a high school garage band.

 I am a person who Idolized the 60's and 70' rock I lived it and loved it(still do)
But I know very well the screaming of the Rolling Stones and Kiss. Black Sabbath, Led Zeplin and all the greats of the 70's main attraction was the fact they did just that, screamed and rocked the house down otherwise no one would have gone to any of thier concerts. The only emotion was mass hysteria and we loved it. Yes some like the moody blues and the Mommas and Papas even the Bee Gees did have the emotion and soul, but they absolutely strived for the technical aspect every bit as much as the soul part.
   I really enjoy our discusions as long as they dont get personal and insultive.
 Thanks for the feed back. But please don't take it personal and try not to make it personal 
Former user wrote on 12/3/2009, 8:24 AM
hallo and welcome here.... I hear an excellent voice of your daughter, she controls singing perfectly.... the only what interferes me a little, however, the treatment of the musical part... is also this you will still gain control... further thus and I pleases me already about other songs of you and your daughter....

many greetings to You
ZIGGI wrote on 12/3/2009, 1:57 PM
Your daughter has a very good voice. Her ability is obvious to me. You are right to be proud of her.
The quality of the recording needs some work, but as you have said you are new to MusicMaker. We all start at the beginning. Continue so.
I'm sure your daughter will go far.

Brian
smartsmurf wrote on 12/3/2009, 3:18 PM
Sheena's voice is impressing...


Solista wrote on 12/3/2009, 4:30 PM
I'd like to see it (& hear it) the same way as Ziggi. Of course you're a proud father! Can't quite follow what problem 'exile' has - to say the least...

Former user wrote on 12/3/2009, 4:36 PM

Former user wrote on 12/3/2009, 5:21 PM
ok, mr. exile's all wrong...
Guitorb wrote on 12/3/2009, 5:40 PM
I think you can take the dis from disabled right out of your daughter's resume'. She sounds very capable. I would be proud of her also.
Sect.23 wrote on 12/5/2009, 9:52 PM
Scott and Sheena....WoW!!! (Goosebumps!) Just starting out??? Keep going, you are off to a great start....talent is a gift, but recording and mastering can be learned; and as we all know, "practice makes perfect" :) Wonderful stuff!!!
Cheers,
Sect23
ArtistW wrote on 12/6/2009, 12:31 AM
Wow. Forget the technical aspects (mainly of the recording) forget here the disablities of your daughter. I love what I am hearing. 5+++++ (Favorite)

P.S. You could have mentioned from who is the music. May me to my shame, but I did not know it and I love it.