I get broken elements appearing in the play back

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/15/2020, 10:23 AM

Movie Edit Pro 2020

When I do video playback in Magix or after uploading to Youtube I get this broken effect that you see at the bottom of the screen shot. My system is up to date with the latest Ryzen processor, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD Windows 10 pro. I get that in all my videos to some effect. I have just upgraded and due to another issue I fully reinstalled it. I have no background software running. I have a gaming Graphics card. I import at 50fps and do the same on export in fact that's what Magix defaults to on import.

Any help greatly appreciated

Best, Jono

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

Comments

johnebaker wrote on 2/16/2020, 6:52 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

Do you have any 'All in one' codec packs, eg K-Lite, installed?

If so, they are not necessary for Movie Edit Pro (MEP) and have been known to cause compatibility issues with the codecs MEP uses, then uninstall them and then try exporting the project again.

HTH

John EB
Forum moderator

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Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/18/2020, 4:36 AM

Thanks John for getting back to me. Where would I find the, "All in one " codec packs.

 

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

terrypin wrote on 2/18/2020, 5:48 AM

Here's one way, although I expect there's a quicker one:

EDIT, shortly after:

I was curious so went looking for another way. The following alternative listed only 9 versus the 17 in my WMP method, with less helpful information. Raising a question about the inconsistency?

EDIT: And to make it a trio:

johnebaker wrote on 2/18/2020, 6:01 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

. . . . Where would I find the, "All in one " codec packs . . . .

They should appear as an entry in Windows settings, Apps, however if there is not one listed then do not install any - they are not necessary.

HTH

John EB

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX, MEP Premium, MEP 2016, and earlier versions, Music Maker Premium, Music Maker 2016, 2015.

Running Windows 10 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb + 2 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 x 2Tb ext HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/18/2020, 8:00 AM

Thanks John and Terrypin,

It does not look like I have these codecs installed. What's plan B. I just did 4 takes and loaded them into Magix and it's broken all takes at some point along the way.

Jono

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/18/2020, 4:13 PM

Below is a list of all the codecs I have installed.

I have tried all sorts today including changing camera settings and at some point the video in all of them pixelates/breaks up just a little bit.

I'm currently working on a project so any help I can get to have this problem resolve is greatly appreciated

Jono

 

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

pmikep wrote on 2/18/2020, 4:55 PM

Another way to check codecs is from Autoruns, under the codec tab.

Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like loosing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, i3-8100, UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue SATA SSD for OS, Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors.

johnebaker wrote on 2/19/2020, 4:01 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

From the list of codecs it would appear you have BandiCam installed - this may be the cause of the issue if you are using MPEG 2 or 4 encoded video.

Try uninstalling BandiCam, restart the computer and check that the Bandi codecs, re have been removed and then try importing your video again.

@terrypin

Hi Terry

Using WMP to list the codecs will, AFAIK, only display the codecs it uses, it is certainly not listing some codecs I have installed.

The only program I have that lists all codecs is GSpot Codec Information Appliance

HTH

John EB

 

Lateral thinking can get things done!

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terrypin wrote on 2/19/2020, 5:26 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John,

An interesting side issue this, although sadly doesn't resolve Jono's problem.

After three methods I explored two more, but decided against further additions to my post!

Source, 'Codec entries'
WMP method, 17
Sys Info, 9
Nirsoft InstalledCodec, 81
GSpot, 105
Autoruns, 166

I see no consistent definition of a 'codec'?

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/19/2020, 5:56 AM

Hi John EB,

I uninstalled Bandicam and restarted and checked the codes had gone. They have now gone. I did a 5 min video and imported it and got the same broken picture.

I have down loaded GSpot and taken 3 screen shots of the results which are attached. They don't mean anything to me.

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

emmrecs wrote on 2/19/2020, 10:12 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

You wrote in your original question that you have a gaming Graphics card. Which exact model and have you checked that its drivers are fully up to date, via the manufacturer's website, not via Windows Update?

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD Radeon R7 360 and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Photo Story Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Reaper, Adobe Audition CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D

johnebaker wrote on 2/20/2020, 2:21 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

In addition to @emmrecs comment, looking at the codecs list, the only extra one I can see for video is the XVid codec, however I too have this installed and it does not affect importing on my PC.

We need a MediaInfo analysis of one of the source video clips that shows the issue - see this topic for what is required - and what camera or device was used to capture the video.

A sample clip, showing this issue, for us to test would also be helpful - can you upload a short ~ 10 secs long original, non confidential clip to somewhere like Dropbox or other file sharing site. Do not upload to the forum, Youtube, Vimeo etc as they will convert the clip.

John EB
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Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/20/2020, 3:24 PM

Hi John,

I've updated the drivers on both my graphics cards. Then taken another short movie and it's still doing the same thing.
I have a Panasonic HC WX979 .
I have a 10sec clip for you but I will need an email address for Drop Box

Please see below for the MediaInfo analysis of a video made.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\RYZEN\Documents\MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Premium\test7\S2000001_EE93869E.MP4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/avc1)
File size                                : 1.45 GiB
Duration                                 : 8 min 13 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 25.2 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=13
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 min 13 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 24.9 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 26.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.240
Stream size                              : 1.43 GiB (99%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 min 13 s
Source duration                          : 8 min 13 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 14.9 MiB (1%)
Source stream size                       : 14.9 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-02-20 20:31:34

 

 

 

 

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

johnebaker wrote on 2/20/2020, 4:05 PM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

. . . . have a 10sec clip for you but I will need an email address for Drop Box . . . .

There is no need for email addresses - in Dropbox hover the mouse over the file, you should see the sharing pop-up open; click Create a link option bottom-right. The link to the file will be created, then select Copy link and paste that into a comment.

Thanks for the MediaInfo analysis - nothing unusual, looks like a standard Full HD PAL AVC encoded video.

John EB

 

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX, MEP Premium, MEP 2016, and earlier versions, Music Maker Premium, Music Maker 2016, 2015.

Running Windows 10 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb + 2 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 x 2Tb ext HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/27/2020, 2:23 PM

Hi,

Firstly just to bring you up to date, I have updated my machine to the latest windows v1909, BIOS, graphics cards x2 and chipset drivers, so my machine is fully up to date as of today. I also uninstalled Magix and re-installed it, just in case there was a problem with the program.

Unfortunately I still have the same problem.

I have ruled out the camera completely and the lead as I have downloaded video into my old laptop and using Windows Video Editor I never had any problems whatsoever.

Attached is an image of what the breakup looks like when played in Magix. I have put a sample of the breakup in dropbox and below is the link. The breakup doesn't always show in the mp4 files when exported, however, the sections that are in Dropbox are the very section that broke up in Magix. Just to re-iterate, this problem has only started since moving from Magix Premium Pro 2016 to Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i9wbwrj98unr27t/AABA8Yf7lteclBI3Zd5E68RAa?dl=0

Regards,
Jonathan

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

Scenestealer wrote on 2/27/2020, 4:11 PM

@Jonathan-Lloyd @johnebaker

John EB asked for a Media info analysis and Dropbox sample of an original clip ie straight from the camera SD card or after copying to your hard drive. All of these example you have posted appear to have been processed thru an editor.

Have you played any of your footage through another device other than your computer and seen this disturbance as it almost looks like a graphics card display fault?

Peter

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 1903, MEP2016, 2020 Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX11. Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 1903, MEP2015 Premium.

emmrecs wrote on 2/28/2020, 4:00 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

looks like a graphics card display fault

I would have to fully concur with @Scenestealer on this! Those are the sort of artefacts that could be expected to be seen if there is some problem with a graphics card.

You say you have fully updated the drivers for your card but you still haven't told us exactly which card, manufacturer and model. If you do, and if you do exactly as Peter @Scenestealer wrote, and are able to post an original sample straight from the camera, it is possible that another user may have the identical card and so can test your footage on his/her computer.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD Radeon R7 360 and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Photo Story Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Reaper, Adobe Audition CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/28/2020, 4:13 AM

All the details of the cards are in the signature?

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

johnebaker wrote on 2/28/2020, 4:26 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi

Thanks for the video clips, I concur with @Scenestealer and @emmrecs that the issue looks like a graphics card issue.

Which graphics card - the Radeon R7 360 or NVIDIA GeForce 210 - does Movie Edit Pro think it is using and which one has the monitor attached to it?

Personally I would try pulling the GeForce 210 out of the PC - the R7 360 is a much more capable graphics card - to see if the issue is resolved.

HTH

John EB
 

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX, MEP Premium, MEP 2016, and earlier versions, Music Maker Premium, Music Maker 2016, 2015.

Running Windows 10 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb + 2 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 x 2Tb ext HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

emmrecs wrote on 2/28/2020, 4:46 AM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

All the details of the cards are in the signature?

My apologies! I completely failed to notice you had created a signature! 😢

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD Radeon R7 360 and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Photo Story Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Reaper, Adobe Audition CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 2/28/2020, 4:50 AM

OK, I will pull the graphics card out and do another test.

Jono

No worries Jeff :)

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

Jonathan-Lloyd wrote on 3/1/2020, 1:19 PM

Here's the latest update:

I have taken out the second graphics card (Nvidia) and unfortunately it didn't may any difference.

I feel now I've exhausted everything. Can we just go back to basics on this. Can you give me a rundown as to what settings you would use on Magix to import a 4K movie from a camcorder and how you would export it as an mp4. Failing that I just don't know what to do.

Best,
Jono

Computer Specifications:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Eight-Core Processor 3.20 Ghz
RAM 32GB
2x Graphic Cards: AMD Radeon RX 570 Series Version 20.2.2 and NVIDIA GeForce 210 Version 342.01
Audio: AMD High Definition Audio Device / NVIDIA High Definition Audio / Realtek(R) Audio
Windows 10 Pro Version 1909, OS 18363.657
465GB SSD
BIOS: American Megatrends F50 27/11/2019

Magix Info:
Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium
Version 19.0.2.53 (UDP3)

johnebaker wrote on 3/1/2020, 4:18 PM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

Hi Jono

. . . .what settings you would use on Magix to import a 4K movie from a camcorder. . . .

I do not use Movie Edit Pro to import the video files from my 4K camera (Sony)

Using Windows File Explorer, and the camera connected via USB, I copy the files direct to PC.

Once transferred I load them into MEP as required.

HTH

John EB

 

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX, MEP Premium, MEP 2016, and earlier versions, Music Maker Premium, Music Maker 2016, 2015.

Running Windows 10 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb + 2 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 x 2Tb ext HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Scenestealer wrote on 3/1/2020, 4:59 PM

@Jonathan-Lloyd

To expand a bit on John's comment - once you have copied the file to the hard drive you then drag it from the folder you copied it to, from the Magix Media Pool onto the timelime in your project and it should prompt you to accept the settings of the camera original clip whereupon it will change the project settings to match. When you decide to export the movie file as an .mp4 it should default to the 4k settings of the project and the original file if that is what you want, however your media info data shows that you are wishing to export in HD so you would need to choose an export preset for 1920x1080 50P.

I have taken out the second graphics card (Nvidia) and unfortunately it didn't may any difference.

Then for completeness you need to put the Nvidia back in and remove the Radeon card.

Peter

 

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 1903, MEP2016, 2020 Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX11. Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 1903, MEP2015 Premium.